Gardening leave
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puggit

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49,813 posts

278 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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I've just been placed on gardening leave as I'm leaving work to join a competitor.

One question...

Can I start work at my new place while I'm still technically under contract? How does it all work?

Edited to say: Yes, I know it's 2...

>> Edited by puggit on Friday 21st October 11:47

vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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puggit said:
I've just been placed on gardening leave as I'm leaving work to join a competitor.



Gardening leave? Is'nt that what women take?

Shound'nt it be Beer leave for blokes..

up-the-dubs

4,282 posts

259 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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puggit said:
I've just been placed on gardening leave as I'm leaving work to join a competitor.

One question...

Can I start work at my new place while I'm still technically under contract? How does it all work?

Edited to say: Yes, I know it's 2...

>> Edited by puggit on Friday 21st October 11:47


Depends on how tight the contract is. Friend of mine had to wait 3 months. Being paid the whole time mind.

bga

8,134 posts

281 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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have a look in the contract terms of your current employer. It's possible that they will stipulate that you can only work for them & IIRC gardening leave means you are technically still employed by them.

2 Smokin Barrels

32,031 posts

265 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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Normally, the whole point of gardening leave is to hold you off working for the competion.

I'd get your current contract reviewed to see if it holds water. Depending on the propsed length of your "gl", and your terms, it may be better to come to an arrangement with current employers.

catso

16,479 posts

297 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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If you're getting bored waiting, you could do my Garden....

s 8 grn

1,198 posts

273 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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In my experience you can't start work until after your notice period/gardening leave is up. Officially you are still working for them.

MARQUE

187 posts

256 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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paid but at home..i would love a bit of that..complete that diy,watch some daytime tele(if i had one) go drive about in the car..play on that playstation..etc
etc..dont grumble just enjoy it cos you will be busy enough when you do start your new job (good luck)

cotty

42,247 posts

314 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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2 Smokin Barrels said:
Normally, the whole point of gardening leave is to hold you off working for the competion.


They could do the same thing by making him work his notice. The idea is so he cant steal clients/business

cotty

42,247 posts

314 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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Wish I was on Gardening Leave, I start a new job in January but have to work my notice

2 Smokin Barrels

32,031 posts

265 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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cotty said:

2 Smokin Barrels said:
Normally, the whole point of gardening leave is to hold you off working for the competion.



They could do the same thing by making him work his notice. The idea is so he cant steal clients/business


Exacterly...hold him off, and not get up to date info

GT

1,407 posts

288 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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As stated by other it can be negotiated, will depend what business you are in.

I have always counted it as a godsend, 3 months to do nothing and get paid!.

Once an employer tried to force one year on me, saying it was in my contract (100 pages!) but only would pay for 3 months.
Told him to stuff it and sue me if he wanted to stop me earning a living after the 3 months.
Got one snotty solicitors letter from super duper solicitors meant to intimidate, I sent one back via equally super duper solicitors before they dropped it.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

273 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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Take the opportunity to have weeks of lie-ins and no commute - when I had a prolapsed disc a couple of years ago and 3 months off I realised it was the first time for about 20 years I didn't feel tired all the time.

2 Smokin Barrels

32,031 posts

265 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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Yep, the pendulum, he swingeth back & forth.

Not that long ago restraint of trade clauses were frowned upon by courts..you can't stop a bod earning a living etc.......now, depending on construction they can be a bit of a bugger.

kerfuffle

5,253 posts

284 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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cotty said:
Wish I was on Gardening Leave, I start a new job in January but have to work my notice


My God man, you don't sound well. That isn't a nasty case of man flu is it?

cotty

42,247 posts

314 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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kerfuffle said:

cotty said:
Wish I was on Gardening Leave, I start a new job in January but have to work my notice



My God man, you don't sound well. That isn't a nasty case of man flu is it?


I have a faster PH connection at the office, you dont think im actually doing any work do you. I sometimes work off site and trying to get a trip to Norwich sorted before I go. 3-4 days of living in a hotel on the company and all my meals paid for + expenses.

puggit

Original Poster:

49,813 posts

278 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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It's only 1 month's notice - which means it's not too much lazing around

I'll have a good read up of the contract, and I'm about to speak to my boss, and then I'm off home!

New company want me in Paris for their annual sales-kickoff on 16th November, and that's fine as I resigned in time.

Mrs Puggit has lined up decorating one bedroom and ummm, gardening for me!

I guess I could use the time to learn Unix - I need it for the job

tobeee

1,436 posts

298 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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Garden leave has to be negotiated. During your standard notice period they 'own' you, but they can't do anything beyond that that might restrict your earnings or damage your future earnings potential (all bound up in various human rights acts). So, if they'd rather you weren't working for the competition until, say, the end of the year, they'll need to agree some compensation for you. If you can't agree, tell them to stuff it and join your new employer.

When my colleague left this company to join a competitor, our employer waved the non-compete agreement under his nose. My colleague got a bit scared, so waved it under a solicitor's nose, who almost wet himself laughing and said to just bin it (didn't even charge him for the consultation!).

Good luck in your new job!

tvrforever

3,196 posts

295 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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Cool sounds good - so you've left Evil Machine Company to go to which competitor then?

puggit

Original Poster:

49,813 posts

278 months

Sunday 23rd October 2005
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Baby keeping you up is it?

I'm off to a small software company who are offering an ILM suite. I'll email you the details, see if you're interested