What can she do?
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sideways mostly

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2,681 posts

271 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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This may have been done to death so just point me at the threads if you know.
One of my staff is in the process of buying her first house. She was quoted £1000 for conveyencing by a solictor who was recommended to her by a friend.As a purchase its been very straight forward,a few bells an whistles to sort out but nothing exceptional.

The Solicitor now wants to charge her £2,800.

She has asked him for a written brekdown of the work to explain the difference which he will not give her despite several requests.He did give her a very brief verbal justification on the phone but no detail.

He is also extreemly patronising to her on the phone e.g. " But XXX at least you'll be happy in your new home." etc.

She needs to complete in two weeks time and is worried he will use this as leverage.

PH being a broad church is there anyone out there who can give her any advise?

>> Edited by sideways mostly on Wednesday 2nd November 16:13

greg_D

6,542 posts

276 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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apart from f**k right off, sorry

Greg

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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Was the £1000 quote written down or verbal?

sideways mostly

Original Poster:

2,681 posts

271 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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the initial quotation was verbal I beleive

Harry Flashman

21,876 posts

272 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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Law Society rules are detailed and very strict on this. She should have had a written quote when she asked for it, and has the right to a detailed break down. So tell solicitor to knob off, and if he gets shirty, threaten to call The Law Society.

Simple.

fido

18,917 posts

285 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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i'm going through the same process at the moment, and i am shocked that they can charge extra (and such a huge difference). surely, any expenses have to be detailed in a written quote? - this all sounds a bit dodgy. my solicitor has itemised every single item. also, was she quoted for both 'buying' and 'selling' in a chain? - even then i would expect £1500 tops. there are plenty of lawyers on PH anyway...
and it's a heavily regulated industry.

Harry Flashman

21,876 posts

272 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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By the way, that will be £2500, please. And no, you don't get a bill.

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clubsport

7,415 posts

288 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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Huh?? I don't normally pay more than 350-500 quid for conveyancing. Nice reccomendation from her friend...I would mention the new fee schedule to the friend to see if they can shed any light on this mugging.

Davel

8,982 posts

288 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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Ask for a written breakdown of the proposed fee plus an explanation of the variation so that she can evaluate the difference and take further advice if she need it.

Tell her to put it all in writing so that she can vist CAB for advice if necessary.

Harry Flashman

21,876 posts

272 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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Davel said:
Ask for a written breakdown of the proposed fee plus an explanation of the variation so that she can evaluate the difference and take further advice if she need it.

Tell her to put it all in writing so that she can vist CAB for advice if necessary.


Forget CAB. Law Soc is the badboy to use here.

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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sideways mostly said:
the initial quotation was verbal I beleive


Strictly speaking it's word against word, but as Harry says if she sends him a letter explaining that if he fails to provide a detailed breakdown of the fee and explain why it deviates from the intial quote, that she will take matters to the Law Society that might get the weasel to behave himself.

jonnie5

716 posts

283 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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The bill doens't include the stamp duty does it?

fido

18,917 posts

285 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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also Search Fees etc. (say £300) - i also got charged £80 for them filling in the Stamp Duty Form (erm, cos i couldnt be ars3d to).

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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jonnie5 said:
The bill doens't include the stamp duty does it?
Very good point, conveyancing shouldn't come to more than £500 Unless there's quite a bit extra going on

Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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Harry Flashman said:
Davel said:
Ask for a written breakdown of the proposed fee plus an explanation of the variation so that she can evaluate the difference and take further advice if she need it.

Tell her to put it all in writing so that she can vist CAB for advice if necessary.


Forget CAB. Law Soc is the badboy to use here.





Do what Flashman advises. Ring the Law Society and let them know of your problem. They can slap him on the wrist or even bar him from practicing if they find against him. The rules for quoting are quite clear and were put in place just to stop this kind of thing happening.

pp

Harry Flashman

21,876 posts

272 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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jonnie5 said:
The bill doens't include the stamp duty does it?


Worth checking, actually - doh, I didn't think of that. My solicitor (yes, I used one - we corporate lawyers know nothing about property*) included this in her bill, so total bill was q lot more than just her fees and other disbursements. So ask before getting shirty.


* in fact we know nothing about anything.

sideways mostly

Original Poster:

2,681 posts

271 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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Many thanks to you all-I'll pass on the advise.

Cool place PH!

ARH

2,117 posts

269 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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anonymous said:
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When I bought my house everything was quoted in writting, even the estate agents costs.

>> Edited by ARH on Wednesday 2nd November 17:13

chrisgr31

14,284 posts

285 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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When I moved last year I got a detailed letter from the Solicitor telling me what fees I would have to pay and when. The searches etc were billed seperately during the ongoing process. As it happened the first house I was going for fell through so she did a lot of extra work, and did searches twice. We paid the searches again and at the end of the process she billed us for the abortive first purchase. However her abortive fees were very reasonable. Certainly nothing like the excess quoted in this case.

However if it includes stamp duty, searches cost etc that might explain it.

pdV6

16,442 posts

291 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2005
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I'm not a solicitor, but it really annoys me that the people who do the actual work in the conveyancing process (i.e. the solicitor) get, say £300 for an typical job yet the Estate Agent does relatively little (and pretty much nothing involving any skill) and gets a %age of the sale price. Even worse, the flipping government gets a potentially large %age of the sale price for doing precicesly nothing. The whole structure is arse about face.