Anyone know what these nautical terms mean?
Anyone know what these nautical terms mean?
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m1spw

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Monday 5th December 2005
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I've got an Economics question on economies of scale to do, and its about tankers. I just don't understand some of the terminology as its about super tankers.

I have:
-conventional takner, 10 metre draft; 28,000 dwt
-restricted draft tanker, 10 metre draft, 42,000 dwt
-ultra shallow draft vessel, 10 metre draft, 105,000dwt
-conventional tnker, 16 metre draft, 105,000dwt

What is 'dwt' and what is 'draft'?

gasblaster

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Monday 5th December 2005
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draft is the depth of water the boat takes up. i.e. the distance from the surface of the water to the bottom of the keel.

DWT I am guessing is dry weight, i.e. weight of ship without cargo or fuel.

Raify

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Monday 5th December 2005
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I think that

draft: means the depth of the hull under the water line
dwt: dry weight tons

But I'll check with the shipping line next door... brb

Rob Ustly

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Monday 5th December 2005
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Deadweight tonnage, ie maximum weight a ship can carry before the crew have to get the buckets out.

Incorrigible

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Monday 5th December 2005
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105,000 tons

before you put anything in it

gasblaster

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Monday 5th December 2005
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Whoops - google is your friend.

DWT = deadweight ton, the amount a ship can carry in metric tons.

FrenchTVR

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Monday 5th December 2005
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IIRC draft is the depth that the ship sits in the water. DWT is dead weight tonnage.


Just as a matter of interest, the largest tanker afloat (Jahre Viking) is so big (546,000dwt) it cannot use the English Channel with a full load :getsanorakandleaves

>> Edited by FrenchTVR on Monday 5th December 12:04

m1spw

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Monday 5th December 2005
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Thanks guys. It makes a bit more sense now

shadytree

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Monday 5th December 2005
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FrenchTVR said:

Just as a matter of interest, the largest tanker afloat (Jahre Viking) is so big (546,000dwt) it cannot use the English Channel with a full load :getsanorakandleaves



Here you go Mick

GreenV8S

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Monday 5th December 2005
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I'm not going to answer your question directly because I think the whole point of this is for you to work out the answer.

For 'draft' do a google for 'ship draft'. It's a fairly common term but you could be excused for not knowing it.

For 'dwt' you can find the term used on google, but I expect you can guess at this anyway if you consider how 'economies of scale' might relate to ships?

Edited to add: too slow, I see that other people have already answered your questions in full.

>> Edited by GreenV8S on Monday 5th December 12:08

Incorrigible

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Monday 5th December 2005
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anonymous said:
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Noticed that I'd been pipped to the post by the right definition

So dwt is boat + cargo yes ?

FrenchTVR

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Monday 5th December 2005
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shadytree said:
FrenchTVR said:

Just as a matter of interest, the largest tanker afloat (Jahre Viking) is so big (546,000dwt) it cannot use the English Channel with a full load :getsanorakandleaves



Here you go Mick


Thanks Stu


b'stard

Raify

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Monday 5th December 2005
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GreenV8S said:
I'm not going to answer your question directly because I think the whole point of this is for you to work out the answer.


A bit harsh. It's only an Economics question, they're just using ships as an example. Learning maritime terminology is hardly a requirement of an Economics student.

m1spw

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Monday 5th December 2005
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anonymous said:
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Thanks, I was just about to ask if DWT includes the boat or not.

m1spw

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GreenV8S said:
I'm not going to answer your question directly because I think the whole point of this is for you to work out the answer.

.......

Edited to add: too slow, I see that other people have already answered your questions in full.

These aren't the actual questions, I just needed to know what the terms meant. The actual question is about how within shipping economies of scale have a limited application because of restricting factors such as port depth.

Raify

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Monday 5th December 2005
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Shipping line next door have just confirmed:

dwt = weight of cargo on ship (not the ship itself)

m1spw

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Monday 5th December 2005
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Raify said:
Shipping line next door have just confirmed:

dwt = weight of cargo on ship (not the ship itself)

Thanks!



BR

Raify

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Monday 5th December 2005
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anonymous said:
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Where's that w*nker smiley when you need it!

eccles

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Monday 5th December 2005
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just out of intrest, is C of G an issue when loading cargo in a boat?

m1spw

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Monday 5th December 2005
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anonymous said:
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I tried DWT on google and it didn't come up with anything useful in the definition section thingy. Draft I fund but I wasn't sure if it ws the depth of the tanker, or just the bit under water.

Anyway, thanks for all the help guys.