Oi Cyclists! A question...
Oi Cyclists! A question...
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heebeegeetee

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30,191 posts

278 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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Hi,

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I want to buy a turbo trainer and I see now you can get magnetic resistance ones (which are quiet) as well as fan ones which aren't. (Sorry motorists, if you've come here for an argument - I need proper advice from those who know). So, ususal question, which is best, magnetic or fan?

The magnetic ones I have seen on ebay look like they have some gubbins you need to attach to the handle bars of the bike which alters the magnetic resistance. Does this mean that you can't alter the resistance just by changing gear on the bike, like you would with a fan turbo trainer?

Appreciate your help guys,

Heebee


burnt

1,371 posts

279 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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I have a CycleOps Fluid which is excellent, well worth looking into their range.

As you have said, Fans are noisy...very noisy. Of course you can change the resistance with gearing but will only have a limited resistance range.

I would also recommend a video to go with it other wise you are just clocking up the milage without doing any real work, the video work outs are enough to give anyone jelly legs!

Hope that helps.

Antwerpman

835 posts

288 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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I have the Tacx i-magic and I would highly recommend it.

Having used others before I always found boredom a problem but with this you hook it up to your pc and then ride the route (you need the optional steerer) and the computer alters the resistance and you go up and down hills, in to the wind, etc. You can race against others and even race against yourself and your previous performances.

If you are feeling brave you can buy the bike leg of the hawaii ironman race and try that out (without the heat unless you do it in the airing cupboard). Lots of other features and well, well worth the extra cash as you are much more likely to use it

selmer

2,760 posts

272 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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For regular turbo trainers, stick with magnetic. The sheer noise of a fan will drive you mad. (coming from someone who 20 years ago had one of the first with two fans -- no flywheel! ouch)

polar_ben

1,413 posts

289 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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I have a Tacx CycleForce Swing - no video/computer/virtual reality gubbins, but thoroughly recommended. www.awcycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m6b23s36p516

You'll be wanting one of Pete Read's turbo training bibles as well - www.cyclecoaching.com (click on Products)

Cotty

42,257 posts

314 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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polar_ben said:
I have a Tacx CycleForce Swing


Long time no hear. Thought you were off trecking one of the poles

polar_ben

1,413 posts

289 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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October next year is the big one - www.south.com

Training hard at the moment. In fact, I'm just off out for a bike ride

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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go for magnetic

something along the lines of this:
www.wiggle.co.uk/Default.aspx?Main=ProductDetail.aspx&W=0&Manufacturer=&UberCatName=&Cat=cycle&CategoryName=Trainers&ProdID=5360020432&UberCat=0
tho there are cheaper models, this is the one we got (tho it was on special offer when we got it so was about £60 )

also if its a MTB your gonna be using on it... consider a slick tyre, a knobbly tyre on the roller will leave you deaf and a numb butt from the vibrations (and wear your tyre out in no time)

another tip - stack some books under the front wheel so the bike is level when your sat on it... takes the pressure off yours arms and is far more comfortable.

Cotty

42,257 posts

314 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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polar_ben said:
October next year is the big one - www.south.com:


"Many experts still consider it impossible".



polar_ben said:
Training hard at the moment. In fact, I'm just off out for a bike ride


Good luck, reminds me I must dig my bike out but it is a bit cold at the moment

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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Yep, stay away from fans. They're noisy as hell. Liquid is much better.

*curses fan operated trainer at home*

Be prepared for the boredom though, nothing beats actually getting out there.

minnsy

415 posts

297 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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Yup - get out there and hit the trail. I go out every wednesday evening with 4 or 5 others on the Ashdown forest - all weathers. Cold - not a bit of it, wet - well you only get wet once.. Ride for a a couple of hours, hit the pub, meal and beer, cycle back...(fall off)

Highly recommended...

cone

471 posts

265 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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got a fan one , and its bleeding noisy not to mention boring even tried watching XXX movies to keep a rythm ! best to get out on a club run nd get the miles in .

selmer

2,760 posts

272 months

Wednesday 21st December 2005
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polar_ben said:


You'll be wanting one of Pete Read's turbo training bibles as well - www.cyclecoaching.com (click on Products)

Adequate for placing on floor to soak up sweaty mess

heebeegeetee

Original Poster:

30,191 posts

278 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Thanks for your help guys!

Still not sure about the gubbins you fit on your handlebars with the magnetic ones - though this will most probably be the one I buy 'cos its quiet.

But is the gubbins necessary? Won't I achieve desired affect just by changing gear?

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Only briefly (if you change up), the thumb control adjusts resistance (ie angle of climb)

selmer

2,760 posts

272 months

Thursday 22nd December 2005
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Changing gear will of course increase the workload providing your set up is correct, but the magnetic increase will have a similar effect of a slight increase in gradient or headwind, as PoD said. However, those shifters that come with many mag turbos are flimsy and may break quickly. Ideally find a good magnetic load to work on (ie. the most workload) then take it from there wit the gears and cadence.

zebedee

4,596 posts

308 months

Friday 30th December 2005
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selmer said:
For regular turbo trainers, stick with magnetic. The sheer noise of a fan will drive you mad. (coming from someone who 20 years ago had one of the first with two fans -- no flywheel! ouch)


I've also got the cycle-ops fluid trainer - just the sound of the tyre going round, thats all - and the workout video is good and keeps your interest, but I am really interested in this pc malarkey and racing other bikes on it - that sounds like a much more interesting way of training, it is ultimately boring just sitting spinning or even doing repetitive exercises like on the video, but if you were immersed in a (virtual) race, at least there would be some motivation there. Who else does such trainers and how much are they? Can't you just get something like a dynamo to attach to the bike frame and use an existing turbo trainer, or do you have to buy all new kit? Cheers.

zebedee

4,596 posts

308 months

Friday 30th December 2005
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doh. Spot the deliberate mistake. Having thought about it, of course you would need the whole kit otherwise how can you replicate hills etc unless it kept telling you to change gear which would get a bit annoying - seriously impressed with that Tacx kit but it ain't cheap enough for me!

fixedwheelnut

744 posts

262 months

Friday 30th December 2005
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Agree with the magnetic ones being best, I have one with the additional lever and used to leave it on the highest setting and alter the gears.
Have you considered rollers? less resistance but the addition of having to still balance the bike and improve you're pedalling style

tallbloke

10,376 posts

313 months

Friday 30th December 2005
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I know nowt about it, but I'd recommend a magnetic one to run a heater in winter, and a fan to keep you cool in summer.