Round Pin Plugs/Wall Sockets
Round Pin Plugs/Wall Sockets
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julianhj

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8,871 posts

292 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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The flat I've moved into recently has round pin wall sockets in addition to normal power points in some rooms - I'm assuming these are for table lamps etc - there appear to be additional light switches in those rooms. I've never had these type of sockets before - are there any particular precautions I need to take, or can I just switch normal plugs for the round-pin variety for my floor standing and table lamps?

TIA

tubbystu

3,846 posts

290 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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You have no problem simply switching from 13a square pin to 5 or 7 amp round pin. Make sure you buy the correct size though. The round pin plugs are the predecessor of the 13a plug and are unfused. You should find they all come on from one (or maybe two ) switches on a seperate circuit.

love machine

7,609 posts

265 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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big martin

239 posts

254 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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It sounds like the flat could do with total rewire at sometime

rich 36

13,739 posts

296 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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As a kid, our house was 'blessed' with a whole variety of pre-13A wall sockets
round three pin, like above thread,
and,
round (2 pin 5A?)

the latter were so easy to wire in a scalextric car motor to, and test



BANG!!
utter darkness, and quiet,




followed by severely smacked arse.

julianhj

Original Poster:

8,871 posts

292 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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Ahh - perhaps I should mention that its a brand new development - the builders are still finishing the last phase and our flat was only completed 3 months ago!

Edited to say: The sockets are 3 pin, with the central pin at the top being a larger diameter than the two lower pins

The sockets look like this so I'm guessing it's a case of ordering 5A plugs. Cheers for your help!

>> Edited by julianhj on Sunday 1st January 13:56

rich 36

13,739 posts

296 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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perhaps they've installed shaver points helpfully eveywhere instead

julianhj

Original Poster:

8,871 posts

292 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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rich 36 said:
perhaps they've installed shaver points helpfully eveywhere instead


Got a couple of those in each bathroom as well

mojocvh

16,837 posts

292 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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Hmmm maybe it's some obscure way of getting round PAT testing or summat?????????????


MoJo

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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Seems to me this is purely a swiched lighting circuit. so you can switch lamps on via the light switches. The different size of the socket is to ensure some dickhead doesn't plug his 3Kw kettle into the lighting circuit which will probably be 1 or 1.5 mm cable and with a 6 amp circuit breaker. Plugs will be available from any electrical supplier and the sockets are not live until they are switched on so no danger of little fingers getting burned unless you switch the lights on on all the unused switches.

markmullen

15,877 posts

264 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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My apartment has these, and yes, they are for table lights. I found a supplier of the little plugs you need, I'll post it up as soon as I find it again.

coach

1,118 posts

282 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Wiring_Accessories_Menu_Index/Plug_Tops_2/index.html

There you go - our house has them on dimmers. Excellent idea

Coach

love machine

7,609 posts

265 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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rich 36 said:
perhaps they've installed shaver points helpfully eveywhere instead


The oompah loompas had to live somewhere

telecat

8,528 posts

271 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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The round pin sockets are popular with elements of Hi-Fi buffs as the contact area is bigger. They do tend to be very new, gold plated and also concentrated where the Hi-Fi is of course!

mcflurry

9,191 posts

283 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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Maybe the electrician wasn't from the uk and used the wrong 3 pin sockets??

monkeyhanger

9,267 posts

272 months

Sunday 1st January 2006
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nonegreen said:
Seems to me this is purely a swiched lighting circuit. so you can switch lamps on via the light switches. The different size of the socket is to ensure some dickhead doesn't plug his 3Kw kettle into the lighting circuit which will probably be 1 or 1.5 mm cable and with a 6 amp circuit breaker. Plugs will be available from any electrical supplier and the sockets are not live until they are switched on so no danger of little fingers getting burned unless you switch the lights on on all the unused switches.



Sounds like you might well be correct, although as i avoid housing sites like the plague it's a new idea to me...

That said, as the plugs are fairly easy to get hold of, there's nothing to stop some half-wit fitting one of those plugs onto a totally unsuitable appliance....

I think we can file this one in the bad ideas folder, along with the solar powered torch and the waterproof sponge.

8Pack

5,182 posts

270 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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rich 36 said:
As a kid, our house was 'blessed' with a whole variety of pre-13A wall sockets
round three pin, like above thread,
and,
round (2 pin 5A?)

the latter were so easy to wire in a scalextric car motor to, and test



BANG!!
utter darkness, and quiet,








followed by severely smacked arse.







I take it you didn't follow an electrical career then?.............

plug

1,136 posts

268 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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nonegreen said:
Seems to me this is purely a switched lighting circuit. so you can switch lamps on via the light switches. The different size of the socket is to ensure some dickhead doesn't plug his 3Kw kettle into the lighting circuit which will probably be 1 or 1.5 mm cable and with a 6 amp circuit breaker. Plugs will be available from any electrical supplier and the sockets are not live until they are switched on so no danger of little fingers getting burned unless you switch the lights on on all the unused switches.


That's correct, they are getting more popular this days I have seen electricians fit them on loads of building sites I have been on.

zcacogp

11,239 posts

274 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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nonegreen said:
Seems to me this is purely a swiched lighting circuit. so you can switch lamps on via the light switches. The different size of the socket is to ensure some dickhead doesn't plug his 3Kw kettle into the lighting circuit which will probably be 1 or 1.5 mm cable and with a 6 amp circuit breaker. Plugs will be available from any electrical supplier and the sockets are not live until they are switched on so no danger of little fingers getting burned unless you switch the lights on on all the unused switches.
Spot on. Give that man a medal.


Oli.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

276 months

Monday 2nd January 2006
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nonegreen said:
Seems to me this is purely a swiched lighting circuit. so you can switch lamps on via the light switches. The different size of the socket is to ensure some dickhead doesn't plug his 3Kw kettle into the lighting circuit which will probably be 1 or 1.5 mm cable and with a 6 amp circuit breaker. Plugs will be available from any electrical supplier and the sockets are not live until they are switched on so no danger of little fingers getting burned unless you switch the lights on on all the unused switches.

They are also used by universities in halls of residence in order to ensure that a sufficient proportion of students freeze to death in the winter. Of course, what happens is that students fit a 2A round pin plug to a 4-way 13A square pin socket bar, and proceed to demonstrate that the electricians who cabled the sockets up have a more realistic view of the world than the authorities who specified the silly sockets.