That Bird Crash Cockpit Thingy
That Bird Crash Cockpit Thingy
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scoobz

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6,578 posts

275 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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Anyone remember that Jet fighter that hit the bird of prey? don't know if it was hooky but anyone got the link or pics?

Eric Mc

125,332 posts

292 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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Is that the in-cockpit video recording taken from a Canadian BAe Hawk trainer?

dieseljohn

2,114 posts

283 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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FunkyNige

9,784 posts

302 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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Blimey, thought the Hawk had two engines though?
My uncle's Hawk got hit by a bird once, but he landed, the engineers patched up the hole (in the nose) with duct tape and off he went...

sjp63

1,997 posts

299 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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FunkyNige said:
Blimey, thought the Hawk had two engines though?
My uncle's Hawk got hit by a bird once, but he landed, the engineers patched up the hole (in the nose) with duct tape and off he went...


One engine.....two intakes - quite common

Eric Mc

125,332 posts

292 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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Bifurcated intake - single engine (Rolls Royce Turbomeca Adour I think)

FunkyNige

9,784 posts

302 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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sjp63 said:
One engine.....two intakes - quite common


Eric Mc said:
Bifurcated intake - single engine (Rolls Royce Turbomeca Adour I think)


OK, thanks. He also had one hit his airliner, but that hit the windscreen(?) glass on landing and he just landed. A friend of ours caused quite a shock on a commercial plane he was flying when she mentioned she knew the pilot and he used to fly Harriers

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

273 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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Eric Mc said:
Bifurcated intake - single engine (Rolls Royce Turbomeca Adour I think)


Quite right, they are easy to surge when faced with a cross wind. I think the Engine is a 104 the same as the Jaguar but without reheat.

Eric Mc

125,332 posts

292 months

Saturday 7th January 2006
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The original concept of the Jaguar was saw it as an advanced trainer as well as a bomber/ground attack aircraft. However, as the design progressed, both countries involved in the Jaguar project (Britain and France) decided that a dedicated trainer would be better. It was no surprise the French company involved in the Jaguar, Dassault-Breguet, ended up building the French trainer, the Alpha Jet.

The British design was the Hawker Siddlely HS1182, later renamed Hawk.

HarryW

15,975 posts

296 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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I vote we scrap google and just ask Eric

scoobz

Original Poster:

6,578 posts

275 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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cheers guys but i meant the photo's of some F** plane that hit some hawk/eagle and covered the inside in guts and blood but the pilot landed it.

then took pics.

unless i dreamed it

R988

7,495 posts

256 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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scoobz said:
cheers guys but i meant the photo's of some F** plane that hit some hawk/eagle and covered the inside in guts and blood but the pilot landed it.

then took pics.

unless i dreamed it


Happens very often so there are lots of pics floating around, even a dedicated website
www.birdstrike.org/commlink/top_ten.htm
www.birdstrike.org/commlink/signif.htm

F-111



C-141


UH-60 Blackhawk



Beech something or other I think







C-130




http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/Flying/BirdStrike3

www.aopa.org/asf/bird_strike.html

www.anft.net/f-14/photo-e3-02.htm

www.dallasrcclub.org/BirdStrike.html

F-16 hit, hi res photo so I'll just add in a link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/F

There was also the infamous Porsche Boxster pictures which were posted quite a number of times over a few months






>> Edited by R988 on Sunday 8th January 03:58

KingRichard

10,146 posts

259 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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Anyone else got chicken for dinner?

anonymous-user

81 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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www.fazed.org/video/view/?id=111 roy walker you are a legend. i have just spent an hour looking through these videos, and thers football on the telly!!!

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

268 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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Anybody ever hear of the chicken 'gun' that aircraft developers use for firing chickens at the fronts of planes to simulate bird strikes. It might be an urban myth but apparently some Russian developers firing a chicken at a plane whilst it was still frozen (the chicken, not the plane!). It went straight through the screen and was embedded into the cockpit bulkhead.

Eric Mc

125,332 posts

292 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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I've seen film of those tests. Even a nice soft moderately sized chicken will totally a multi-million £ turbo-fan engine.

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w00dy

920 posts

264 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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Eric Mc said:
I've seen film of those tests. Even a nice soft moderately sized chicken will totally a multi-million £ turbo-fan engine.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 8th January 18:17


A few years ago I stripped a few cf6's that'd taken a bird strike; they really can an engine. Once one compressor blade or vane’s broken (in any circumstances) the chances are most of them, the HPT combustor and LPT will be ed along with it. Its also not nice working on something that’s had bits of bird baked to it a month ago :sick:

The strike test and fan blade video's are a good watch

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

268 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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Eric Mc said:
I've seen film of those tests. Even a nice soft moderately sized chicken will totally a multi-million £ turbo-fan engine.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 8th January 18:17
Isn't this the reason why planes are limited to 250kts below 10,000ft? Greater likelihood of strikes up to this altitude IIRC

eharding

14,648 posts

311 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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rsvmilly said:
Isn't this the reason why planes are limited to 250kts below 10,000ft? Greater likelihood of strikes up to this altitude IIRC


Well, this only applies to civilian traffic not
under an appropriate form of radar service (the military
are obviously exempt) and is mostly a traffic
issue, rather than birdstrike. Even for civil
traffic, if, for example, you've access to a Hunter,
the right phone numbers, and know the AWACS is
operating, said radar service can still be obtained.
At least, according to one ex-Tornado mate.

FunkyNige

9,784 posts

302 months

Sunday 8th January 2006
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rsvmilly said:
Anybody ever hear of the chicken 'gun' that aircraft developers use for firing chickens at the fronts of planes to simulate bird strikes. It might be an urban myth but apparently some Russian developers firing a chicken at a plane whilst it was still frozen (the chicken, not the plane!). It went straight through the screen and was embedded into the cockpit bulkhead.


Sorry
www.snopes.com/science/cannon.htm