Paul McKenna : arrogant t*at ? : discuss
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My wife was watching his latest offering last night on Sky one. This time he claims to be able to 'make you thin'. Apprantly you can eat what ever you like and still lose weight, as he has designed a new way of 're programing your mind about food'. To do this he has invented 4 simple rules.
1 : eat when your hungry - now thats ground breaking isn't it !
2 & 3 I can't even remember (i'd problemly lost the will to live)
4 : stop when your full !
How can anyone take any notice of this man. I fully admit to being slightly overweight, but not as he suggests because I eat to much, but because I get little or no exercise. This man is full of bullsh*t and arrogant with it. No doubt there will be a book along shortly to accompany the programme and line his pockets even more.
Rant over
1 : eat when your hungry - now thats ground breaking isn't it !
2 & 3 I can't even remember (i'd problemly lost the will to live)
4 : stop when your full !
How can anyone take any notice of this man. I fully admit to being slightly overweight, but not as he suggests because I eat to much, but because I get little or no exercise. This man is full of bullsh*t and arrogant with it. No doubt there will be a book along shortly to accompany the programme and line his pockets even more.
Rant over
After many attempts at eating less, counting things and whatnot, over the past 6 months or so I have come to the uncomfortable conclusion that regaining my former adonis-like physique is going to entail some actual effort on my part, and that despite the protestations of the tellybox, I am not going to be able to eat myself thin.
I joined the gym in October, and attend 4 times a week.
Results: definite visible improvement.
Other key motivating factor: I am getting married this year and have been ordered to "be thin or at least muscly-ish" by August by Mrs (to be) Jameson.
I joined the gym in October, and attend 4 times a week.
Results: definite visible improvement.
Other key motivating factor: I am getting married this year and have been ordered to "be thin or at least muscly-ish" by August by Mrs (to be) Jameson.
I bought the CD some time last year. I can't say if it works, I only listened to it once. I'd bought it to listen to in the car, I thought maybe subliminaly it would work, but realised after one listen (at home) that it wouldn't be a good idea in the car (Zzzz).
There is something to the basic principles. The French eat for hours, so should be monstrously overweight, but they eat socially, take their time, and enjoy their food. The diametric opposite is McDingles, where you throw predigested crap into your face and swallow, and get fat.
There is something to the basic principles. The French eat for hours, so should be monstrously overweight, but they eat socially, take their time, and enjoy their food. The diametric opposite is McDingles, where you throw predigested crap into your face and swallow, and get fat.
Mother in law went to one of his sessions.
She came back and told us all about it and we where laughing till we cryed.
Although since then things have changed she doesnt diet but her life has changed and whats more this has been a long term change. Weight is not falling off like most diets but definately going in the right direction.
I think it depends on the person if you can be influenced then it can help you but if not then it will just make you laugh. He has a style and it works for some like all methods its not 1 size fits all as it certainly wouldnt fit me.
She came back and told us all about it and we where laughing till we cryed.
Although since then things have changed she doesnt diet but her life has changed and whats more this has been a long term change. Weight is not falling off like most diets but definately going in the right direction.
I think it depends on the person if you can be influenced then it can help you but if not then it will just make you laugh. He has a style and it works for some like all methods its not 1 size fits all as it certainly wouldnt fit me.
Ian V said:
1 : eat when your hungry - now thats ground breaking isn't it !
Why so angry? It's true that fat people don't just eat when hungry. They eat from habit, or because they're unhappy, or a million other triggers that are stronger than the little physiological 'hunger' impulse. It might not be anything new (I remember my mum asking me when I was little if I was 'mouth hungry' or 'tummy hungry'), but for some people it could be a revelation that helps.
Ian V said:
4 : stop when your full !
Same thing again. Is your problem with this that people have to be told, or that someone's telling them? You clearly aren't from the generation that were taught they had to clear their plate before they left the table. In some people, the psychological cues around eating are stronger than the physiological ones - they have to concentrate hard to realise when they are full, and have to be told that it's ok to throw some food away.
I can't see any problem with McKenna's method. I didn't see the programme, but I've read the book - nothing faddy or unhealthy in it as far as I can see. If it helps some people break bad habits, then why the rant? Got to be better than a lot of the alternatives I reckon.
Wouldn't mind seeing what he said - did anyone happen to burn it to DVD?
>> Edited by rude girl on Tuesday 10th January 09:39
victormeldrew said:
I bought the CD some time last year. I can't say if it works, I only listened to it once. I'd bought it to listen to in the car, I thought maybe subliminaly it would work, but realised after one listen (at home) that it wouldn't be a good idea in the car (Zzzz).
There is something to the basic principles. The French eat for hours, so should be monstrously overweight, but they eat socially, take their time, and enjoy their food. The diametric opposite is McDingles, where you throw predigested crap into your face and swallow, and get fat.
true but it's also very much to do with what you're eating.
rude girl said:
Wouldn't mind seeing what he said - did anyone happen to burn it to DVD?
>> Edited by rude girl on Tuesday 10th January 09:39
I've got it on Sky Plus (why doesn't a plus sign show up when I preview the message?) and can easily put it on a DVD for you. All I need is an address to send it to.
>> Edited by Mrs Cuchillo on Tuesday 10th January 10:55
rude girl said:
Why so angry?
I just feel that his attitude (I can cure you of anything) gives people false hope. In his show last night the fact that there was no mention of exercise, only eat what you like, can only do harm. There is no way you are going to lose weight with this attitude.
I couple of years ago when we were building our own house, I lost a lot of weight due to the work I was doing. Sadly since finishing it has all gone back on. My problem is not what I eat or the amount I eat, if anything I ate more during the build, but the fact that I work from home and sit in front of a computer all day. Exercise is the key.
There is no quick fix to losing weight as he would have us believe, you have to want to do it and work at it.
what about starve yourself for 20 hours in the day, then eat for the rest of the time at four, 1 hour intervals, for arguements sake, lets call these intervals
1. Breakfast
2. Lunch
3.Dinner
4. Supper
or if your a northerner like me
1. Breakfast
2. Dinner
3. Tea
4. Supper
Amazing really Paul you certainly are a t
t
1. Breakfast
2. Lunch
3.Dinner
4. Supper
or if your a northerner like me
1. Breakfast
2. Dinner
3. Tea
4. Supper
Amazing really
Paul you certainly are a ttI take your point. I didn't see the programme, but I've read the book, which seems to have gone in to a lot more detail. I guess that's inevitable, because TV has to be entertainment as well as informative. From the book, I could see how his method would work for a proportion of people - those who have destructive habits but don't even realise they are habits.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not being smug, I've had problems with my weight all my life, and have been huge and also been so thin I looked disgusting (not as often as I've been a fatty though!
). I've done loads of reading about the subject, because I think if you don't know why you're doing that sh1t to yourself, then it's even harder to stop. McKenna seems reasonably sensible (if a bit theatrical), and certainly not as damaging as fad diets.
McKenna lets himself down a bit because he says things (in the book, so probably on the telly too) like 'it's simple', or 'it's easy', when he means that the concept is simple or easy. Actually making any lifestyle change is neither, and he doesn't always make it clear what he means. Can't wait to get the DVD from Mrs C now, and see how it compares with the book!
Balance is the key. It's an equilibrium. If you're not exercising and you're putting on weight, then you're eating too much (I'm an expert on this). There was a programme on Ch4 last week about people eating themselves to death, and it said that for the amount one bloke was putting away, he'd have to run something like 5 marathons a week to work it off. Same thing - not eating too much, just not exercising enough! 
Don't get me wrong, I'm not being smug, I've had problems with my weight all my life, and have been huge and also been so thin I looked disgusting (not as often as I've been a fatty though!
). I've done loads of reading about the subject, because I think if you don't know why you're doing that sh1t to yourself, then it's even harder to stop. McKenna seems reasonably sensible (if a bit theatrical), and certainly not as damaging as fad diets. McKenna lets himself down a bit because he says things (in the book, so probably on the telly too) like 'it's simple', or 'it's easy', when he means that the concept is simple or easy. Actually making any lifestyle change is neither, and he doesn't always make it clear what he means. Can't wait to get the DVD from Mrs C now, and see how it compares with the book!
Ian V said:
My problem is not what I eat or the amount I eat, if anything I ate more during the build, but the fact that I work from home and sit in front of a computer all day. Exercise is the key.
Balance is the key. It's an equilibrium. If you're not exercising and you're putting on weight, then you're eating too much (I'm an expert on this
). There was a programme on Ch4 last week about people eating themselves to death, and it said that for the amount one bloke was putting away, he'd have to run something like 5 marathons a week to work it off. Same thing - not eating too much, just not exercising enough! Gassing Station | The Pie & Piston Archive | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff