New Wembley stadium
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leftie

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Tuesday 10th January 2006
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I haven't seen it in the flesh, but folks who have are telling me it will knock you dead when it opens (if?). They suggest that (despite the Times article last week) that they are controlling the press and TV because they know that when it is unveiled, hopefully for the cup final, it will be so impressive that we will be gobsmacked and that all the sniping critics will melt away, and they down want to spoil the thunder of the moment.

Anybody seen it? Is it likely to be worth the wait?

FourWheelDrift

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314 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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Can't miss it if you travel in the area.

There are loads of photo's as well if you Google Images it.

PhillT

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255 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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It certainly is ma-hoosive. Looking forward to going if they ever get it finished.

Muncher

12,235 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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I've not seen it in person but have seen a lot of the recent images, it looks awesome.

Just to get an idea of the scale...




www.wembleystadium.com/brilliantfuture/photodiary/november2005/default.htm

rich-uk

1,431 posts

286 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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It is an awsome sight when they have it lit up (It was lit up a while ago, can't remember why). You can see it from most of West London as long as there's no buildings in the way.

ZR1cliff

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279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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Ime told you can see it from the hogs back ,at night when its lit up.

beano500

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305 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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A gratuitous and completely unhelpful picture of the construction works....


ZR1cliff

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Tuesday 10th January 2006
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rich-uk said:
It is an awsome sight when they have it lit up (It was lit up a while ago, can't remember why). You can see it from most of West London as long as there's no buildings in the way.


Was it when London won the olympics?

Muncher

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279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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The Arch was lit on Wednesday 6th July 2005 to celebrate the success of the London 2012 Olympic bid. View from Wembley Way.

A photograph of Wembley Stadium at dawn taken from Elvin House on the 13th May. This date marked one year to go before Stadium opening with the The FA Cup Final in 2006

npower (Official Supplier) asked that the Wembley Arch be lit on the 12 September 2005 to celebrate the England cricket team beating Australia in the Ashes

Topping Out ceremony on 1st September 2004 - Fireworks burst over the 133m high Wembley Stadium Arch to celebrate the Stadium reaching its full height and the start of England's World Cup 2006 qualifying campaign.

It has been lit quite a few times it appears.

pwig

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300 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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Shows how good we can be when we actually invest a decent amount of money into something

MartinD

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257 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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leftie said:
.............................................................................................. that when it is unveiled, hopefully for the cup final, ............

Yep , it'll be open for the final....2007

eccles

14,401 posts

252 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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pwig said:
Shows how good we can be when we actually invest a decent amount of money into something




even though its about 10 years late, and about three times the original price!....

Frik

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273 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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From what I've seen, it'll certainly stop smug locals harping on about the Millenium Stadium.

Once it's finished of course...

Muncher

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279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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The walkway from Olympic Way (I think) hasn't even started yet and was due to take 5 months to complete. Some of the work at the tube stations was never due to be completed in time for the Cup Final either.

ZR1cliff

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Tuesday 10th January 2006
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Muncher said:
The walkway from Olympic Way (I think) hasn't even started yet and was due to take 5 months to complete. Some of the work at the tube stations was never due to be completed in time for the Cup Final either.


They might be building it on another part of the site or in sections off site,to be lifted into place.

blueyes

4,799 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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Frik said:
From what I've seen, it'll certainly stop smug locals harping on about the Millenium Stadium.

Once it's finished of course...



Hope they finish it in time. I can't wait for the great unwashed to start using Wembley. I'm fed up with 72000 hooligans screwing up the roads, puking and screaming in the street and generally making a bigger shit tip out of Cardiff.

RedYellowGreen

470 posts

260 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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Totally dominates the West London skyline I'm quite impressed with it.

Muncher

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279 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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ZR1cliff said:



They might be building it on another part of the site or in sections off site,to be lifted into place.


New Wembley blow

NEW concerns emerged today over whether Wembley's new national stadium will be ready in time for this year's FA Cup final.

The stadium's contractors have raised fears that a dispute between Wembley National Stadium Ltd and the site's owners may have put the construction of a key walkway too far behind schedule.

Building work on the access point along the old Wembley Way was due to start in September, yet began only yesterday.

The construction schedule originally gave contractors Multiplex 20 weeks to build the walkway. However, the £757million Wembley project has long been geared to a March 31 deadline - which is just over 12 weeks away.

Handover

That was the date set for the handover of the completed stadium to the Football Association, in time to stage the final on May 13.

Wembley insisted today that the stadium would be ready in time for the FA Cup final. But even though the dispute between Wembley and Quintain has been resolved, Multiplex admitted that the walkway issue is a concern.

A Multiplex spokesman said last night: "We've had meetings over how we can accelerate what is a 20-week job, but there's only so much we can do over a problem that was nothing to do with us. It's causing us major concern."

A Quintain representative said: "All issues have been resolved to ensure Multiplex have sufficient time to complete the works before March 31."

A Wembley spokesman said: "Multiplex are still reassuring us that it is on track for handover on March 31, and it's our aim to open the stadium with the FA Cup final on May 13."

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Multiplex has forced Wembley's operators to the negotiating table over the £120,000 a day they had intended to charge in fees for lateness. The move is the first indication that delays in the construction project's completion will cost Wembley National Stadium Ltd.

Previously WNSL, a wholly owned Football Association subsidiary that will manage the stadium after its completion, had stated that the constructor Multiplex would bear all cost overruns on its £326.5m fixed-price contract. However, it emerged yesterday that WNSL had failed to meet an obligation to secure access to a key area of the site, prompting Multiplex to latch on to the operators' mistakes.

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A dispute between WNSL and the landowner Quintain Estates prevented Multiplex workers from beginning construction on the pedestrian walkway to the stadium, due to start last September, until this Tuesday. "There are ongoing discussions about when penal clauses should kick in," said an insider. "It's a fixed-price contract but doing accelerated-programme works costs money. If access to a site has been granted late, that becomes part of the negotiations." The penal clauses are designed to insulate Wembley and the FA from the effects of having an incomplete stadium when debt service begins on the £433m, 16-year senior loan to the consortium including Barclays, Lloyds and the German bank West LB. How a reduction in the penalty fees or schedule would affect Wembley's capacity to service the debt is unclear.

Though sources insist the Wembley negotiations are highly amicable, Multiplex is currently involved in litigation with its former steel supplier and sub-contractor Cleveland Bridge [CBUK] in an attempt to recover £18.3m it claims is owing in misrepresented valuation and breach of contract. CBUK has filed a counterclaim.

Both WNSL and Multiplex yesterday insisted they would work to ensure the stadium remains on course to be finished for the FA Cup final. However, in a statement, the constructor said: "There are risks associated with meeting that date. Following access to the pedway being granted by Quintain, Multiplex and WNSL are now looking at options to enable Wembley Stadium to be accessed from Wembley Way for the target handover date."



>> Edited by Muncher on Tuesday 10th January 18:46

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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265 months

Tuesday 10th January 2006
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Did I read that the FA Cup Final is now Sunday April 30? Brought forward due to World Cup?

>> Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Tuesday 10th January 18:47

Tristar

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Tuesday 10th January 2006
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Did I read that the FA Cup Final is now Sunday April 30? Brought forward due to World Cup?

>> Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Tuesday 10th January 18:47


i dont know what you have read will let you know if i find out