Has Russia got the upper hand?
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www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4057
3 miles per second, 180 miles per minute!
3 miles per second, 180 miles per minute!
article said:
And the world just became a more dangerous place
I question that statement,i felt although there was a threat in the cold war ,having two super powers checkmate each other all the time and advancing their weapon technology, for some reason made the world a more stable place.
It is only since the demise of "Cold war one" it feels the world has become more of a dangerous place.
Maybe it was because the two super powers always seemed to have ongoing diplomatic communications and smaller countries would take sides with either of the super powers and in doing so were part of the diplomatic communication network.
This really made me laugh , the perception regarding the cold war and russians ...
i work out in Russia ..........i work with Russiams ..
if you ask a Russian .....to give their perception of british spy .......you will get exactly the same answer if you ask an English one ...both wear rain coats with collars pulled up , black trillby hats and black glasses !!!!!!!
besides our comrades spend too much time trying to keep warm,,,,,,,,drinking good quality vodka ......and well with 10,million unmarried gorgeous ladies .....er not much time for planning invasions these days...
funny thing before i came out here i never tried proper vodka .......please dont mention Smirnoff ......i mean real stuff like Russian Standard/ Putinka ( named after Putin !!)
served ice cold........Fantastic ....shame our base is dry,,,,,,,out here
oh yes all our translators are ex KGB i am working with a good freind of mine we call the colnel .....he also teaches English .....when you speak to him , his english is so good he sounds like a country squire !!!!
his previous job involved liasing with a certain overthrown dictator.....no joke
cheers
dbs
Ha ha........However the article was fantastic. The writing is on the wall for everyone else to match/better the new technolagy. I agree in saying that we may perhaps be on the edge of another, perhaps less well publicised arms race. The American mentality will not allow themselves to be `behind` the USSR. Delivery systems are where the new frontier is now.
On the whole the whole issue is frightening. We are creating an insane world for our children and there seems no way to change the direction...
www.videotiger.com/nuclearbombexplosionvideo.shtml
On the whole the whole issue is frightening. We are creating an insane world for our children and there seems no way to change the direction...
www.videotiger.com/nuclearbombexplosionvideo.shtml
DBSV8 said:
This really made me laugh , the perception regarding the cold war and russians ...
i work out in Russia ..........i work with Russiams ..
if you ask a Russian .....to give their perception of british spy .......you will get exactly the same answer if you ask an English one ...both wear rain coats with collars pulled up , black trillby hats and black glasses !!!!!!!
besides our comrades spend too much time trying to keep warm,,,,,,,,drinking good quality vodka ......and well with 10,million unmarried gorgeous ladies .....er not much time for planning invasions these days...
funny thing before i came out here i never tried proper vodka .......please dont mention Smirnoff ......i mean real stuff like Russian Standard/ Putinka ( named after Putin !!)
served ice cold........Fantastic ....shame our base is dry,,,,,,,out here
oh yes all our translators are ex KGB i am working with a good freind of mine we call the colnel .....he also teaches English .....when you speak to him , his english is so good he sounds like a country squire !!!!
his previous job involved liasing with a certain overthrown dictator.....no joke
cheers
dbs
Sounds like one of my colleagues when I was in Russia. He had been trained at the KGB school but had never gone into service and instead became a lawyer. His English is perfect (good enought to draft legal documents most people with English as a mother tongue would struggle with) and to hear him speak you would think he was from the home counties, although he has never lived in the UK. Worryingly however, his German is even better.
But as DBS says, their image of the Cold War was spun much the same as ours, a massively militaristic aggressor ready to strike at any moment for no particular reason. The Russians don't really want to go back to that any more than we do.
Isn't Putin supposed to be trying to assemble a "Warsaw Pact of Engery" in order to hold a whip hand over Europe and America?
Nothing quite like living in interesting times is their, a global asset bubble coupled with an engergy crisis an incipient pandemic, and an emerging hyper power.
Nothing quite like living in interesting times is their, a global asset bubble coupled with an engergy crisis an incipient pandemic, and an emerging hyper power.
A much more balanced view of the RT-2UTTH/SS-27 (Topol-M) :
www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/rt-2pmu.htm
ErnestM
>> Edited by ErnestM on Wednesday 18th January 10:47
www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/rt-2pmu.htm
ErnestM
>> Edited by ErnestM on Wednesday 18th January 10:47
Of course Russia can come up with lots of hitech world beating stuff but can they afford it?
In other news, just a couple of days ago Russia increased it's order for HiTech Mi28 attack helicopters from a mindblowing 3 to 7 (not a misprint). The much vaunted Su-27M (Su-35 for export versions) is now in service with the Russian air force, all five of them, but they are getting something like 15, watch out F-22.
Be afraid be very afraid, the Russians are coming.
In other news, just a couple of days ago Russia increased it's order for HiTech Mi28 attack helicopters from a mindblowing 3 to 7 (not a misprint). The much vaunted Su-27M (Su-35 for export versions) is now in service with the Russian air force, all five of them, but they are getting something like 15, watch out F-22.
news report from a year or so ago said:
The decline in Russian military aviation continues. Effectiveness is sapped by ageing aircraft, lack of maintenance, low flying hours because of lack of fuel and almost no new aircraft being delivered. There has been some reform of the air force, but its impact has been relatively small. The service remains plagued by loss of experienced manpower and the procurement programme is in tatters. Russia is struggling to maintain the expertise and ability to produce modern combat aircraft and weapons when the economy can provide funding for it; at present this prospect is remote. At the same time it has been pitched into conflict in breakaway republic Chechnya and has found itself employed by Central Asian CIS republics with their own internal problems.
The MFI (Mnogo Funktsionalny Instrebytel) programme for a multi-role fighter is still thought to exist, but there appears to have been no meaningful progress. The Sukhoi S-37 Berkut forward-swept wing technology demonstrator flew in September 1997, but the project has stalled after a short test programme. Similarly, the MiG 1.42 prototype multi-role fighter prototype remains in a hangar at the LII Flight Test centre at Zhukovsky and will probably never fly, despite a public roll-out in late 1998.
The air force's most realistic hope for a new tactical aircraft is the LFI (Logkiy Frontovoi Istrebityel - light frontal fighter) which Russian designers compare to the Joint Strike Fighter project.
So far the project remains at the concept stage with Sukhoi and MiG designs rumored to exist.
Another critical air force requirement is for tactical and long-range strike aircraft. The Sukhoi Su27IB (also known as Su-34) is on order to replace the Su-24 Fencer, but procurement so far is limited to a handful of aircraft, with no major purchase in the offing. The multi-role Su-30 is also in service in small numbers, with India and China taking new airframes.
Further purchases for the Russian air force will be greatly reliant on production runs from and for foreign customers.
The MiG-29SMT/UBT is probably the only new combat aircraft likely to enter service in the short term, with a handful in production.
The air force intends to convert around 200-300 of its early model MiG-29s to the new standard to provide a tactical air-to-ground capability supplementing the Sukhoi Su-25.
The defence force (PVO) merged with the air force on 1 March, 1998, bringing the fleet of MiG-31 and Su-27 interceptors and surface to air missiles under a single command.
The merged force shed 45% of its combined manpower, a loss of 133,000 men and 580 units.
Availability of aircraft to units is probably much lower than the figures listed below, due to un-serviceability and lack of fuel.
Be afraid be very afraid, the Russians are coming.
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