Trivial post - "off of" - why do people say it?
Trivial post - "off of" - why do people say it?
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RobM77

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35,349 posts

265 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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A really trivial post, but it's really got me wondering

Why do people say "off of"? As in "take that off of the table". An overwhelming majority of people in my office say it. Obviously, we all know it is grammatically incorrect (and I'm not sure I care about that, because we all know what people mean when they say it), but my question is based around the fact that it is very difficult to say! I'm not a pedant for grammar, and I appreciate that people say certain incorrect things because they're easier, but this one is a right old tongue twister! You can see my boss break up his usual conversational flow whenever he has to say it.

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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RobM77 said:
but my question is based around the fact that it is very difficult to say!


"Off of" isn't hard to say!

Try pronouncing

"Llanfairmahafarneithaf"

Now that's hard to say even if you're Welsh!

miniman

30,166 posts

293 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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RobM77 said:
Why do people say "off of"?

It's because they were poorly educated.

RobM77

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Friday 20th January 2006
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My Boss [quickly]: "Ok guys, the customer has told us that they'd like some changes to the base build we're supplying to them. They don't like a couple of applications and they would like them taken" [..long pause..] "off" [..cringe..] "of" [he continues as normal] "the build that we're supplying them with".

Totally breaks most people's speach up mid flow, and unnecessarily as well, because it is wrong!

minimax

11,985 posts

287 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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miniman said:
RobM77 said:
Why do people say "off of"?

It's because they were poorly educated.


bingo. morons..

just the same as saying 'would of' instead of 'would have' or 'would've'

mkgriff

719 posts

312 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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Don said:
RobM77 said:
but my question is based around the fact that it is very difficult to say!


"Off of" isn't hard to say!

Try pronouncing

"Llandofthehairymuffin"

Now that's hard to say even if you're Welsh!


scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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You sad, sad people. Is this all you have to whinge about?

RobM77

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35,349 posts

265 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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minimax said:
miniman said:
RobM77 said:
Why do people say "off of"?

It's because they were poorly educated.


bingo. morons..

just the same as saying 'would of' instead of 'would have' or 'would've'


I guess it isn't their fault if their school didn't teach them very well! Although most people rectify and refine their grammar purely by reading books later in life.

Personally, I've also been very confused recently as to why our main customer has any dealing in the world's largest ocean!?! The lady I sit opposite keeps talking about their "pacific requirements".

pdV6

16,442 posts

292 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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RobM77 said:

Personally, I've also been very confused recently as to why our main customer has any dealing in the world's largest ocean!?! The lady I sit opposite keeps talking about their "pacific requirements".



A family friend used to work in the perfume business and continually referred to her company's range of "pour on" products. Whilst that particular gaffe actually works in a weird kinda way, you'd have thought that somebody actually in the industry would have spotted the words "pour homme" on their products once in a while...

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

275 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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scorp said:
You sad, sad people. Is this all you have to whinge about?

Just because you're guilty of the 'would of' thing.

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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Einion Yrth said:
Just because you're guilty of the 'would of' thing.

RobM77

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35,349 posts

265 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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Einion Yrth said:
scorp said:
You sad, sad people. Is this all you have to whinge about?

Just because you're guilty of the 'would of' thing.


The thing with me is I am interested and curious about everthing (other than work!).

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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mkgriff said:
Don said:
RobM77 said:
but my question is based around the fact that it is very difficult to say!


"Off of" isn't hard to say!

Try pronouncing

"Llandofthehairymuffin"

Now that's hard to say even if you're Welsh!




Try going to the Highlands: Auchtermuchternothernameicantsay...

nervous

24,050 posts

261 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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RobM77 said:
A really trivial post, but it's really got me wondering

Why do people say "off of"? As in "take that off of the table". An overwhelming majority of people in my office say it. Obviously, we all know it is grammatically incorrect (and I'm not sure I care about that, because we all know what people mean when they say it), but my question is based around the fact that it is very difficult to say! I'm not a pedant for grammar, and I appreciate that people say certain incorrect things because they're easier, but this one is a right old tongue twister! You can see my boss break up his usual conversational flow whenever he has to say it.


its not poor grammar, its poor semantics. try and out pedant a pedant will you?

RobM77

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35,349 posts

265 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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you're right, yes

I'm not being pedantic, I just think it sounds silly when people say it!

BliarOut

72,863 posts

270 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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Nervy, how's the new caps key working?

xm5er

5,094 posts

279 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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Its an americanism, blame "Friends".

FourWheelDrift

92,364 posts

315 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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RobM77 said:
Why do people say "off of"? As in "take that off of the table". An overwhelming majority of people in my office say it.


So stop putting things on the table, it's sounds like it's an office rule.

nervous

24,050 posts

261 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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BliarOut said:
Nervy, how's the new caps key working?


pErfEctly THanKs

Maroon5

180 posts

277 months

Friday 20th January 2006
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along similar lines...

why do people say 'i'll have 4 off those...'? surely it should be 'of'?