Setting up a valeting business?
Setting up a valeting business?
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Nick P

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29,977 posts

281 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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I have about 5 years left in my present job, so am trying to cobble ideas together of what i would like to do in my next life.....i appreciate cars and do not mind a bit of hard work, so one of the ideas that came to me re-training and getting into valeting....i have 4 options i wish to investigate...

1) is it recommended to start my own business?
2) can i buy into a franchise?
3) go into business with a good mate who had a valeting business previously?
4) work for someone else?

thanks in advance...Nick

Muncher

12,235 posts

279 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Buy a £5,800 pot of wax and proceed from there

I think setting up your own business would be the way to go.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

277 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Why give x amount of £££'s to a company for a franchise when you can use this to set yourself up and be completely in control of your own destiny.

I would use the cash to set yourself up with a little premises (or a vehicle if you want to go mobile). Buy all the kit (not much I would imagine) and distribute lots of leaflets on a regular basis, advertise, do editorials with friendly papers etc.

Kentish

15,169 posts

264 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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As he said ^^^

Take control of your density...

Eric Mc

125,794 posts

295 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Avoid franchising and only consider it as a last resort.

Nick P

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29,977 posts

281 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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what sort of ball park figure are you looking at to start a mobile business? are they successful i.e. a reasonably good income? Is it really hard to get it off the ground? would i be quite busy after an initial period of getting clients?

Liszt

4,337 posts

300 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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I would suggest targetting business parks and offices. Clean peoples cars while they are at work. Seems very popular around us.

There have been a few "Kosavan CarWashes" been set up in Milton Keynes where you get a hand carwash in minutes for a couple of quid by a group of surly immigrants.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

277 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Nick P said:
what sort of ball park figure are you looking at to start a mobile business?


Depends I guess on what you want to do but shouldnt be too dificult to work out.

You need a van of some kind (probably best to lease this), fitted out with a pressure washer, vaccum and all your cleaning materials, waxes, polishes etc.

The rest is just graft and perceverance.

Good advice earlier, target industrial estates and perhaps visit each one once a fortnight or so regularly so clients and potential clients know you are around every other Tuesday for example.

Ask if you can put leaflets on company notice boards, wait till lunchtime perhaps when people leave the building for a smoke or a sandwhich and pitch the idea to them.

Initially just carpet bomb your area with leaflets and try to pick up regular clients.

Nick P

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281 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Was it miracle (the guy who did the £5800 Zymol thread) who does this....?
is he mobile or based? 'Miracle'

As i said its probably about 5 years off, but i want to get a plan off action and get the training done while i am still in a paid job

B17NNS

18,506 posts

277 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Mr Miyagi said:
wax on, wax off


Nick P

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Tuesday 24th January 2006
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hahahahaha......

as long as i could get a reasonable wage each month doing it i would be happy as i will have a good pension to supplement my earnings....to be able to buy £5800 polish would say to me "your doing ok "...

iandbeech

2,709 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Nick P said:
I have about 5 years left in my present job, so am trying to cobble ideas together of what i would like to do in my next life.....i appreciate cars and do not mind a bit of hard work, so one of the ideas that came to me re-training and getting into valeting....i have 4 options i wish to investigate...

1) is it recommended to start my own business?
2) can i buy into a franchise?
3) go into business with a good mate who had a valeting business previously?
4) work for someone else?

thanks in advance...Nick


Couldn`t you offer to sweep runways as an "external" contractor

Seriously - 1) without a doubt, the rewards you gain (hopefully - not guaranteed of course) from your hard work will line your pockets and not the boss`s!

Are you considering high end valeting or just the car wash end?

Donut

4,521 posts

281 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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I would say you should offer both mobile and have a small unit aswell. You could collect customers cars and drop them back whilst they are at work??

What I would say DON'T get tied into a dealership I have seen it time and time again a small valeting company gets into one and then one of the big players comes in under cuts the price and there gone... with no other customers its good night vienna..

MJK 24

5,679 posts

266 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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I'm considering this at the moment too.

Along with a same day courier service.

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

307 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Franchising might (and I stress MIGHT) get you off the ground quicker, and open doors say to car showrooms etc, and will take out all the hassle of choosing products, designing literature etc. But after year one it will probably be a monkey on your back.

You will need a new van - it has to be immaculate of course. Get one in black or some other dark colour, polish the crap out of it, and stick a chrome vinyl logo on the side. You need to be blinding people in bright sunlight to drum up business. Get some logo'd up overalls as well. Image is totally everything when what you are selling is essentially image.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

280 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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The problem I have always thought is thus; I love washing cars. I take real pride in it and I enjoy doing all the (what I call) titty bits to my car.

But, can you imagine being given a Citroen C5 with curbed filthy alloys, hasn't been washed for ages, crap on the inside. I mean the work to get that looking beautiful will be alot - but will it be worth to the customer what you have to put in? As such, it may be cost prohibitive at that end of the market.

On the other hand, people will happily pay £100 to have their Ferrari cleaned properly - but you need to be spot on - and, indeed, have that £5800 wax!

I would say NO to the small unit. Never, not EVER, would I give my pride and joy to anyone (no offence intended) to drive to a small industrial unit somewhere (which could be 10...15 miles away!). Not a chance. EVER.

tollytuff

991 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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my sister used to run a franchised car wash/valeting business in aldershot. when she first started she made an absolute fortune, eventually the company that ran the franchise kept raising the price of their share of the 'drive through' carwash which meant people stayed away, or went somewhere else

however the biggest part of her earnings was through valeting. its very hard work as people expect to bea able to get their cars cleaned 24 hours a day, very busy on the weekend too... and lots of competition from the eastern europeans, which is why she bailed out

tollytuff

991 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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i should have added this, for you reference..

www.arc-carwash.co.uk/gb/index.asp

bridgdav

4,805 posts

278 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Have a look on Ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mobile-Valet-Business-for-sale

There is normally a few up for sale....

I'm not sure if that means they have failed or not...

They might give you an idea of cost/equipment etc...

You could even ask them a few questions...?

Dave

Nick P

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29,977 posts

281 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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iandbeech said:


Are you considering high end valeting or just the car wash end?




Definitely the high end and aiming at doing quality motors.....the vision i have is the one where i have a smart van, overalls, decent equipment, polish etc to project a professional image. Being in the forces at present i consider myself to have a hard working attitude and take pride in what i do....as long as i get the benefits too ££££££££££££££££££££££££££. I already have a good contact who is in the chemicals industry and makes all sorts of polishes and cleaners, so that would be a head start. i would also aim to provide the Zymol type service as well for the 'more discerning' customer.
at the end of the day as long as i can pay the mortgage, look after the family and buy some toys, i'll be happy....and if it means spending my days rubbing myself on smart cars then so be it