Temple Reid - any good?
Temple Reid - any good?
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MarshalGirl

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291 months

Wednesday 1st February 2006
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There have been a couple of threads on here about recruitment agencies but these guys are different. You pay them to sort out your CV / interview technique and get in contact with companies who may be looking to employ someone like you and get you in to talk to the right people - this is what they say anyhow!

They have been at it for 50 years so I don't suppose they're fleecing everyone who signs up and pays over large amounts of dosh - but anyone any idea on their success rate?

Now seems a good point in my career to be talking to people like this to get me the right contacts and get me in front of the right people , but just wondering if anyone out there has come across them and could rate them against they're competitors.

Any comments gratefully received!

MarshalGirl

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29 posts

291 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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Anyone out there who can help - really need some advise!

ge2

298 posts

280 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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When they say 'get you in to talk to the right people' do they mean they teach you how to find your own contacts or is it just a fancy way of saying they'll get you interviews with their clients?

Sounds like it could be like any other agency but with an extra (chargeable) CV writing service. Could be me being cynical, I'll have a look at their website when I've got 5.

MarshalGirl

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291 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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I'm cynical too but trying to get my head round it - sounds good as I don't seem to be able to move up the career ladder (keep getting stuck as I don't ahve experience, but can't get the experience to move on) - so they seem to understand that - or else it's all down to their selling technique! Trying to find out their success rate and how they approach employers - all through networks but not sure how that works!

ge2

298 posts

280 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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How much are they asking for?

MarshalGirl

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Thursday 2nd February 2006
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ge2 said:
How much are they asking for?

Should £4,500 but will do it for me for £3,500 - includes 4 - 6 weeks to get my CV right and then to contact companies

bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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my father in law went to a similar agency - luckily his ex-employer paid for it. TBH he got nothing more out of it than spending a couple of hours in the internet & reading the parachute book

mikedavis1

202 posts

269 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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Can't comment directly on Temple Reid but had some experience of a similar co a couple of years -Sanders and Sidney: Part of a severance deal I got was 'outplacement'- company paid for it: I know others that have been through this process all were similar: The way it worked was:
Analysis of career, skills, competancies, etc & a look at what I wanted in the future(useful - a skilled consultant gets much more out of you than friends at the bar).Help with CV, took about 10 attempts to get it right!. Networking and access to their database etc -info was pretty poor (a lot of older ex-execsthat all in finance or IT and well past it.)Their job lists usually came from that weeks Times and Telegraph employment suppliments. Motiation - to keep pushing you if the process takes longer than expected then Info about prospective employers etc and Interview practice/advice(Information was no more than you can find on the web/companies house and the interview stuff was only marginally helpful. In general it kind of helped but not a lot:My own network was more useful and had I been paying for it myself I wouldn't have gone ahead: The fee was £7.5K! -have heard of others paying anything between £2.5K and £10K. Did it help me? Not really,I started my own business -not something that came up with them. On reflection I would have rather had the cash!!! don't know if it helps. PM me for a phone number if you want to chat about it M

vixpy1

42,699 posts

295 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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I've never heard of paying a recruitement agency that much up front???

ge2

298 posts

280 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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Does seem like a lot for not a lot!

I suppose the help with the career path, CV and interview techniques could be worth something (I could certainly do with some help with the last one) but the networking thing is what all agencies do for free anyway, it's their bread and butter.

Anyway, my experience is limited to dealings with lots of 'normal' agencies so I'm not really qualified to comment any further

MarshalGirl

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29 posts

291 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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mikedavis1 said:
Can't comment directly on Temple Reid but had some experience of a similar co a couple of years -Sanders and Sidney: Part of a severance deal I got was 'outplacement'- company paid for it: I know others that have been through this process all were similar: The way it worked was:
Analysis of career, skills, competancies, etc & a look at what I wanted in the future(useful - a skilled consultant gets much more out of you than friends at the bar).Help with CV, took about 10 attempts to get it right!. Networking and access to their database etc -info was pretty poor (a lot of older ex-execsthat all in finance or IT and well past it.)Their job lists usually came from that weeks Times and Telegraph employment suppliments. Motiation - to keep pushing you if the process takes longer than expected then Info about prospective employers etc and Interview practice/advice(Information was no more than you can find on the web/companies house and the interview stuff was only marginally helpful. In general it kind of helped but not a lot:My own network was more useful and had I been paying for it myself I wouldn't have gone ahead: The fee was £7.5K! -have heard of others paying anything between £2.5K and £10K. Did it help me? Not really,I started my own business -not something that came up with them. On reflection I would have rather had the cash!!! don't know if it helps. PM me for a phone number if you want to chat about it M


Yes sounds about the same - my problem is not having much of a network so nowhere else to go! Unless anyone out there can offer me a job! Thinking of asking about their success rate (not just percentage but actual finite numbers) and how they find clients / employers - would that be worth while?

chrisob1

289 posts

257 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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I work in Search and Selection and have been in contact with a couple of Ph'ers on here. DO NOT PAY ANY MONEY TO ANYONE TO LOOK AT YOUR CV!!!!!!!! They cannot put you in front of the right people and if they tell you they have prefered supplyer agreements they are not worth the paper they are written on. feel free to Private mail me and I'll give you my work number for an imformal chat about your options and who would be the best consultancy (rather than agency which signifies high street rubbish) to talk to. Regards Chris

egomeister

7,613 posts

294 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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4.5k certainly sounds very steep!

If you are willing to spend that kind of money to further your career, maybe it would be better to put yourself through some training courses in the relevant areas and spend your time targeting agencies & potential employers to put your name in the front of their mind. I would imagine that funding your own training would look good on your CV too, showing that you were enthusiastic and willing to learn.

MarshalGirl

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Thursday 2nd February 2006
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egomeister said:
4.5k certainly sounds very steep!

If you are willing to spend that kind of money to further your career, maybe it would be better to put yourself through some training courses in the relevant areas and spend your time targeting agencies & potential employers to put your name in the front of their mind. I would imagine that funding your own training would look good on your CV too, showing that you were enthusiastic and willing to learn.

Sounds a great idea. I have done a copule of training courses at work (People Management and Project Management) but I don't seem to be able to move into the management area - everyone always wants experience. I'm looking for a career not just another job move so development opportunities etc.

egomeister

7,613 posts

294 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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I don't know how viable this is for the work you are looking to do, but the way I got my first job (well the first I took anyway - I'd had other offers!) was to drive around different companies and just walk in and ask if I could speak to someone in HR about employment opportunities & give them my CV personally. I'm sure I wouldn't have got the break I did if I'd written in with my CV.

As I say I don't know if it would work with your job type and industry but I was looking at a small selection of possible employers (who were also fairly located with the same area) so this method worked well for me.

mikedavis1

202 posts

269 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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marshalgirl said:
Thinking of asking about their success rate (not just percentage but actual finite numbers) and how they find clients / employers - would that be worth while?


I think that would be a good start - along with what kind of roles at what levels their recent candidates have landed:

As I said I found that the lot I was involved with were heavily into finance and IT. Great if you want to be an FD: I have a retail and marketing background and a lot of what I said was a foreign language to them at times:

Also if they are focussed on board level directors for example is that right for you....

I may be slightly cynical but all recruitment companies and the associated consultancies are out to make a buck....yours and mine!


M


puggit

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279 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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I funded myself on some training

6 years ago I was in a deadend job earning £15k for one of the biggest companies in the world. After 2 attempts at getting a move within the company that got me nowhere (despite an employment freeze and rave reviews) I spent £1200 of my own money on an IT training course.

I wont deny I lucked out - but I now earn more then £50k in a growing IT sector as a consultant covering UK, Ireland and Scandinavia

Tuna

19,930 posts

315 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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4.5K makes me nervous. The 'What Colour is your Parachute' book (check Amazon) is quite helpful, and unless your interview technique is abysmal, there's no substitute for going out there and applying for jobs. After a few interviews, you tend to work out what works for you.

If you have an area that you're keen to move into, you might be able to show initiative and offer to work for a company for a trial period to prove your worth.

What area are you hoping to get a job in?

MarshalGirl

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291 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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I'm in Supply Chain - got a lot of international experience but not in Team Management. No particular company preferences just one with good prospects!

alfaman

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265 months

Thursday 2nd February 2006
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MarshalGirl said:
I'm in Supply Chain - got a lot of international experience but not in Team Management. No particular company preferences just one with good prospects!


What type of Supply Chain work have you done , what roles , what experience ? ( some of the skills could be transferable to other areas ).

( I used to be in Manufacturing and Logistics Strategic Planning ......... and eventually moved into Banking ( Finance and Marketing) )