Labour Lose Seat In Style
Labour Lose Seat In Style
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tinman0

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18,231 posts

271 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4699862.stm

majority of 10,000 wiped out. oops.

wolves_wanderer

12,959 posts

268 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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To the Lib Dems boooo

Jaglover

46,837 posts

266 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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It signifies little, classic protest vote going to the Lib Dems.

T5-R

434 posts

257 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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It was rather amusing listening to Alistair Darling get a roasting on Radio 4 this morning about this. What's even funnier is it's the constituency where Gordon Brown lives.

motco

17,660 posts

277 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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JHC, if a government that's mainly Scots can't win they're doomed. DOOMED I tell you!

whatever

2,174 posts

301 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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The drop in turn-out, if attributed mainly to disillusioned Labour supporters, would restore the seat if restored in a "proper" election.

Still, an interesting result nonetheless.

Yugguy

10,728 posts

266 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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As a famous sozzled Liberal once said...

Go back to your constituencies and prepare for...

being popular in by-elections but not in the change of goverment type of elections. Again. As always.

tinman0

Original Poster:

18,231 posts

271 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Jaglover said:
It signifies little, classic protest vote going to the Lib Dems.


i would agree usually, but the scale of this one is a bit big. i mean - 12,000 votes down on one night is a mighty big protest vote. i can imagine a large proportion being a protest vote - eg 60-70% - but not the remaining part. its not often a labour stronghold gets pasted like this either.

Graham

16,381 posts

315 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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how many more of the bads to go





Edited cos the profanity filter didnt work.

>> Edited by Graham on Friday 10th February 11:53

BliarOut

72,863 posts

270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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tinman0 said:
Jaglover said:
It signifies little, classic protest vote going to the Lib Dems.


i would agree usually, but the scale of this one is a bit big. i mean - 12,000 votes down on one night is a mighty big protest vote. i can imagine a large proportion being a protest vote - eg 60-70% - but not the remaining part. its not often a labour stronghold gets pasted like this either.
It's the scale of the drubbing and how closely it follows a general election that's significant. Perhaps the population are finally waking from their slumber.

wedg1e

27,044 posts

296 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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As I've said before, simply getting the Labour trash out is good enough : a vote of no-confidence. So we let another shower in: we KNOW they're ALL a shower; at least we're denying the current morons another stab at it for a few years and who knows, maybe by then some of the armchair politians on here might have decided to put their money where their mouth is and formed a new party that gives a shit.

Dave D

696 posts

284 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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BliarOut said:
tinman0 said:
Jaglover said:
It signifies little, classic protest vote going to the Lib Dems.

i would agree usually, but the scale of this one is a bit big. i mean - 12,000 votes down on one night is a mighty big protest vote. i can imagine a large proportion being a protest vote - eg 60-70% - but not the remaining part. its not often a labour stronghold gets pasted like this either.
It's the scale of the drubbing and how closely it follows a general election that's significant. Perhaps the population are finally waking from their slumber.

Difficult to read a general election into that one as quite astonishingly the Tories were actually down 2.51%!! Local populace trying to beat Blair with a very big stick. Or perhaps show their support for drinking scotch.

>> Edited by Dave D on Friday 10th February 14:40

timmy30

9,325 posts

258 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Hmmm I wonder why Labour are so keen the cancel next year coucil elections?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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timmy30 said:


Hmmm I wonder why Labour are so keen the cancel next year coucil elections?
Very good point Pehaps they are worried that a serious kicking will fatally wound them in the eyes of the media and the general public. God I hope so.

CiderwithCerbie

1,420 posts

298 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Please re-arrange;

Pan Is Cameron In Flash A
History Blair Is
Brown Brown In Stuff The IS


I tell ya' not only do we win, we are now obviously the only serious sex and drugs and rock and roll party!

BliarOut

72,863 posts

270 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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CiderwithCerbie said:
Please re-arrange;

Pan Is Cameron In Flash A
History Blair Is
Brown Brown In Stuff The IS


I tell ya' not only do we win, we are now obviously the only serious sex and drugs and rock and roll party!
Yeah, but it's bum love

thanuk

686 posts

294 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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T5-R said:
It was rather amusing listening to Alistair Darling get a roasting on Radio 4 this morning about this. What's even funnier is it's the constituency where Gordon Brown lives.


They kept saying the result was 'despite Gordon Brown's involvement in the election'. It didn't seem to occur to them that it might be <i>because of</i> his involvement.

CiderwithCerbie

1,420 posts

298 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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BliarOut said:
CiderwithCerbie said:
Please re-arrange;

Pan Is Cameron In Flash A
History Blair Is
Brown Brown In Stuff The IS


I tell ya' not only do we win, we are now obviously the only serious sex and drugs and rock and roll party!
Yeah, but it's bum love


No most swing both ways






(men & boys )




john75

5,303 posts

278 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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Reading to much into bye elections is a mugs game also it only seems to be at Bye Elections that the Liberals ever win seats.

CiderwithCerbie

1,420 posts

298 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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john75 said:
Reading to much into bye elections is a mugs game also it only seems to be at Bye Elections that the Liberals ever win seats.



Errr... check your maths, 1987 Alliance 27 seats, 2005 Lib Dems 62 seats, that's a gain over 4 elections of 35 seats, about nine gains per election on average, slow but persistent. Remember with our ridiculous electoral system there comes a take off point at about 30-32% of the votes, when suddenly you get lots of seats for a few points gained in the overall poll, and as the Tories have teetered periously close to falling through that trap door you would think they might have re-investigated Chris Patten's interest in Proportional Representation

>> Edited by CiderwithCerbie on Friday 10th February 17:25