Some beer questions...
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klassiekerrally

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Friday 10th February 2006
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Is 'ale' the same as the german Altbier?
And is ale mixed with cola, like the germans do with their Altbier?
Tastes horrible, unless you're already drunk

dmitsi

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Friday 10th February 2006
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Verbeter, I see you are Dutch, not German. Sorry about that.

>> Edited by dmitsi on Friday 10th February 17:57

DieselJohn

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Friday 10th February 2006
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klassiekerrally said:

And is ale mixed with cola, like the germans do with their Altbier?


Ye Gods! No!

Do you ever get Bass over there? That seems to be the most travelled example of a british Ale. It isn't a particularly good example though.

dmitsi

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Friday 10th February 2006
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I had some South African friends who used to mix cola and red wine, I've not seen anyone else doing this.

klassiekerrally

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Friday 10th February 2006
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I've never heard of Bass. But then I don't particularly like Altbier, so maybe I won't like ale either...
But you can't say you don't like it until you try it, don't you?*

What are good makes of ale?

* that doesn't go for octopussy and other complete animals on your dish though

>> Edited by klassiekerrally on Friday 10th February 17:57

klassiekerrally

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Friday 10th February 2006
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dmitsi said:
I had some South African friends who used to mix cola and red wine, I've not seen anyone else doing this.

Did they do that to make the wine taste better, or is their cola so terrible?

DieselJohn

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Friday 10th February 2006
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I don't know what Altbier is, or what it taste like with Cola but I don't think Ale would be good mixed.

The best thing about proper british Ale is there are literally hundreds of different types and they are all slightly different. I have a few favourites but evryone like something a bit different. You'll have to come over here to try them properly.

dmitsi

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Friday 10th February 2006
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In England Ale is more likely to mixed with Lemonade instead of Cola, but it has a similar effect. It is called a bitter shandy.

There are many types of ale, but not all the pubs in the UK sell good ones.

klassiekerrally

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Friday 10th February 2006
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DieselJohn said:
I don't know what Altbier is, or what it taste like with Cola but I don't think Ale would be good mixed.

The best thing about proper british Ale is there are literally hundreds of different types and they are all slightly different. I have a few favourites but evryone like something a bit different. You'll have to come over here to try them properly.

I'd love to, but I'm a bit on a very tight budget...
But one day I have to take my Morris to it's homeland

bluespanner

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254 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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what are the technical difference between Ale, Bitter, Lager and Stout?
and is this right:
Ale: Double Diamond
Bitter: Pedigree
Lager: carling
Stout: Guinness?

DieselJohn

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Friday 10th February 2006
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klassiekerrally said:
DieselJohn said:
I don't know what Altbier is, or what it taste like with Cola but I don't think Ale would be good mixed.

The best thing about proper british Ale is there are literally hundreds of different types and they are all slightly different. I have a few favourites but evryone like something a bit different. You'll have to come over here to try them properly.

I'd love to, but I'm a bit on a very tight budget...
But one day I have to take my Morris to it's homeland


excellent plan. When you come over post on here and someone will take you for some good beer.

Irish

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Friday 10th February 2006
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DieselJohn said:
klassiekerrally said:

And is ale mixed with cola, like the germans do with their Altbier?


Ye Gods! No!

Do you ever get Bass over there?


Favourite tipple of the Irish prime minister.....clearly a man of the people

motco

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277 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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I read somewhere in a brewing guide that ale is the old fermented malted barley brew but that when hops were used as a preservative the term 'beer' was coined. Sounds a bit iffy to me and the terms are probably synonymous. Usually 'ale' refers to a traditional style of hand pumped brew made in the British Isles for centuries, but 'beer' is a generic term for all grain brews inclusing lagers.

Guinness and the like are called 'porter' or 'stout'.

klassiekerrally

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Friday 10th February 2006
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dmitsi said:
Verbeter, I see you are Dutch, not German. Sorry about that.

>> Edited by dmitsi on Friday 10th February 17:57


My wife's from Germany. I live about 8 kilometers from the German border.
So my German is pretty good... Jawohl!

JagwireXKR

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274 months

Friday 10th February 2006
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I guess literal translation would be old-beer? Does that give any beer experts any help? Age isn't normally a feature at my local real ale house.

There are some pretty smashing wheat beers here from Germany though, the more commercial ones anyhow. They always seem to give me that chewing Ghandi's flipflop type mouth the next morning though

klassiekerrally

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Friday 10th February 2006
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'Alt' indeed means 'old'.
It doesn't say anything about the age of the beer itself, but about the old brewing method apparently.
I looked it up on wikipedia.

JagwireXKR

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Friday 10th February 2006
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Wikipedia saves the day again.

What do you think to Cherry Beers (Kriekbier I believe?)

klassiekerrally

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Friday 10th February 2006
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I like it.
Kriek is a (belgian?) name for cherries.

Also nice: Grand Prestige, a 10,5 vol % beer.
Drink it like wine (that is: sip it) or it will knock you off your feet!

edited to correct some errors

>> Edited by klassiekerrally on Friday 10th February 21:59

simpo two

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Friday 10th February 2006
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bluespanner said:
what are the technical difference between Ale, Bitter, Lager and Stout?


There's certainly a technical difference between bitter and lager: lager goes through a cold phase which gets rid of some precipitates.

In my book:

Bitter: Brown
Lager: Yellow
Stout: Black
Ale: general term for bitter

And as you get older you mmigrate from lager to bitter, much as you migrate from white wine to red and left wing to right wing.

Petrol_noggin

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Friday 10th February 2006
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JagwireXKR said:
Wikipedia saves the day again.

What do you think to Cherry Beers (Kriekbier I believe?)


I love kriekbier, the only source for it locally (supermarkets) have a kriekbier wrapped in paper, its bottle fermented so contains a lot of sediment.