Peaceful protest in Trafalgar Square
Discussion
On 'This Week' (the programme after QT on a Thursday night which attracts 12-14 viewers) with Andrew Neil, Dianne Abbott and Michael Portillo, the outspoken bird from the Alan Sugar apprentice series was on, banging on, effectively, about being a modern, 'progressive' British muslim.
She was very good but despite the plaudits from the three, war weary presenters, each of them seemed unconvinced that larger numbers of the muslim population were ultimately convinced of her conviction viz a vis last weeks' loons being a minority and that in fact, higher numbers of muslim folk were actually far from disinclined to empathise with at least aspects of the fundamental than was being suggested.
I have no idea: perhaps our eminent poster can shed more light on this?
She was very good but despite the plaudits from the three, war weary presenters, each of them seemed unconvinced that larger numbers of the muslim population were ultimately convinced of her conviction viz a vis last weeks' loons being a minority and that in fact, higher numbers of muslim folk were actually far from disinclined to empathise with at least aspects of the fundamental than was being suggested.
I have no idea: perhaps our eminent poster can shed more light on this?
derestrictor said:
On 'This Week' (the programme after QT on a Thursday night which attracts 12-14 viewers) with Andrew Neil, Dianne Abbott and Michael Portillo, the outspoken bird from the Alan Sugar apprentice series was on, banging on, effectively, about being a modern, 'progressive' British muslim.
She was very good but despite the plaudits from the three, war weary presenters, each of them seemed unconvinced that larger numbers of the muslim population were ultimately convinced of her conviction viz a vis last weeks' loons being a minority and that in fact, higher numbers of muslim folk were actually far from disinclined to empathise with at least aspects of the fundamental than was being suggested.
I have no idea: perhaps our eminent poster can shed more light on this?
she was a honey
968 said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4700482.stm
The first paragraph of this propoganda reads:
'A mass rally by mainstream Muslims demonstrating against controversial cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist is to be staged.'
Which could so easily have read:
'A mass rally by mainstream Muslims demonstrating against Muslims carrying out terrorist murder in the name of the Prophet Muhammad is to be staged.'
But it never came, did it? and it never will.
Instead your community awaits a situation where a cartoonist portray's a truism, and suddenly their feelings are hurt, which presumably is a great deal more painful than having your limbs blown apart, or not having your loved one turn that familiar key in your door ever again...
This has very little to do with 'hurt feelings' and everything to do with politicals, the silencing of free speech, the galvanising of a people, and a future for this country, yet to be told...
>> Edited by police state on Saturday 11th February 08:43
police state said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4700482.stm
The first paragraph of this propoganda reads:
'A mass rally by mainstream Muslims demonstrating against controversial cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist is to be staged.'
Which could so easily have read:
'A mass rally by mainstream Muslims demonstrating against Muslims carrying out terrorist murder in the name of the Prophet Muhammad is to be staged.'
But it never came, did it? and it never will.
Instead your community awaits a situation where a cartoonist portray's a truism, and suddenly their feelings are hurt, which presumably is a great deal more painful than having your limbs blown apart, or not having your loved one turn that familiar key in your door ever again...
This has very little to do with 'hurt feelings' and everything to do with politicals, the silencing of free speech, the galvanising of a people, and a future for this country, yet to be told...
>> Edited by police state on Saturday 11th February 08:43
very well put...............
apache said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4700482.stm
The first paragraph of this propoganda reads:
'A mass rally by mainstream Muslims demonstrating against controversial cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist is to be staged.'
Which could so easily have read:
'A mass rally by mainstream Muslims demonstrating against Muslims carrying out terrorist murder in the name of the Prophet Muhammad is to be staged.'
But it never came, did it? and it never will.
Instead your community awaits a situation where a cartoonist portray's a truism, and suddenly their feelings are hurt, which presumably is a great deal more painful than having your limbs blown apart, or not having your loved one turn that familiar key in your door ever again...
This has very little to do with 'hurt feelings' and everything to do with politicals, the silencing of free speech, the galvanising of a people, and a future for this country, yet to be told...
>> Edited by police state on Saturday 11th February 08:43
very well put...............
Ditto. Nail on head.
peterpeter said:
You are perhaps speaking to soon 968, after all it hasn't happened yet. The thread title might have to be changed to 'Riot in Trafalgar square'
im sure you are keeping your fingers crossed.
While never ruling anything out, I'd actually be quite surprised if anything really kicked off...I'm guessing the police presence is VERY high, and any potential troublemakers (BNP NF etc) would have seven shades kicked out of them and be thrown in paddy wagons before they got anywhere near.
minimax said:
You are perhaps speaking to soon 968, after all it hasn't happened yet. The thread title might have to be changed to 'Riot in Trafalgar square'
im sure you are keeping your fingers crossed.
come on now chap no need to be so inflammatory
Hi Tom
Hows it going down there?
Starkholmes is missing the mighty mini wake up calls!
Andy
andymadmak said:
You are perhaps speaking to soon 968, after all it hasn't happened yet. The thread title might have to be changed to 'Riot in Trafalgar square'
im sure you are keeping your fingers crossed.
come on now chap no need to be so inflammatory
Hi Tom
Hows it going down there?
Starkholmes is missing the mighty mini wake up calls!
Andy
not bad at all, I love london!
starkholmes will soon be echoing to the sound of a non-silenced S3C that i've arranged to pick up shortly
i'll be up in march for a meet, we can catch up and have an ale or two 
minimax said:
You are perhaps speaking to soon 968, after all it hasn't happened yet. The thread title might have to be changed to 'Riot in Trafalgar square'
im sure you are keeping your fingers crossed.
come on now chap no need to be so inflammatory
Realistically.....would your bog-standard 'I'm not too fussed type' go all the way to central London to be militantly moderate?
And anyone with strong feelings is likely to defend them strongly.
Therefore (and I rest my case, yer honour) the chance of some argy-bargy @ some point is a lot higher than if they all decided to stay home for a nice cuppa.
minimax said:
You are perhaps speaking to soon 968, after all it hasn't happened yet. The thread title might have to be changed to 'Riot in Trafalgar square'
im sure you are keeping your fingers crossed.
come on now chap no need to be so inflammatory
Hi Tom
Hows it going down there?
Starkholmes is missing the mighty mini wake up calls!
Andy
not bad at all, I love london!
starkholmes will soon be echoing to the sound of a non-silenced S3C that i've arranged to pick up shortly
I'll Look forwatd to it matey!
Cheers
Andy
>> Edited by andymadmak on Saturday 11th February 13:42
planetdave said:
You are perhaps speaking to soon 968, after all it hasn't happened yet. The thread title might have to be changed to 'Riot in Trafalgar square'
im sure you are keeping your fingers crossed.
come on now chap no need to be so inflammatory
Realistically.....would your bog-standard 'I'm not too fussed type' go all the way to central London to be militantly moderate?
And anyone with strong feelings is likely to defend them strongly.
Therefore (and I rest my case, yer honour) the chance of some argy-bargy @ some point is a lot higher than if they all decided to stay home for a nice cuppa.
just because you feel strongly enough to travel to london to demonstrate against a perceived slight against your religion doesn't mean you plan to disregard the law and riot though
Damn good point.. How about a demonstration, sililar to the huge ones for anti-war, and anti-foxhunting, where muslims protest about terrorsits, and terrorist activities.... Come on Muslim council of Great britian... How about it. And at the same time, ones in countries all over the year...
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