Guilty or not guilty?
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In three trials they could not prove 'beyond doubt' he did it!
Plus there was the tramp who had a fetish for putting bits of plastic up his nose and a bag over his head, tne girl had bits of plastic up her nose and witnesses had seen the tramp near by..??
I think we should let him get on with his life now....
Plus there was the tramp who had a fetish for putting bits of plastic up his nose and a bag over his head, tne girl had bits of plastic up her nose and witnesses had seen the tramp near by..??
I think we should let him get on with his life now....
kentish said:
Would a wife who thought he was innocent do that or would she do as most would and stand by him?
He comes across as a very manipulative charachter and cunning enough to have commited the crime,the O'Jay Simpson case has shown that exposing technicalities can get the most guilty looking person off with a hitch.
>> Edited by ZR1cliff on Monday 13th February 13:14
ZR1cliff said:
Would a wife who thought he was innocent do that or would she do as most would and stand by him?
He comes across as a very manipulative charachter and cunning enough to have commited the crime,the O'Jay Simpson case has shown that exposing technicalities can get the most guilty looking person off with a hitch.
>> Edited by ZR1cliff on Monday 13th February 13:14
I've had Ex's who were very cunning and manipulative and most off them got of without a hitch.
'How can you tell she is a witch?'
'She looks like one'
[edit]really cannot abide speeling mistooks
[more editing]borrox!
>> Edited by planetdave on Monday 13th February 13:29
He wasn't on trial for being "cunning and manipulative". He was on trial for murder.
Whether he is or isn't a "nice" person should not come into the equation. It is up to the judge at a trial like this to remind the jurors that they have to focus entirely on the facts and the evidence presented by the prosecution and the defence in the courtroom - and to try and dismiss any speculation that may be flying about in the outside world.
It must be very difficult to do this but it the only way justice can really work properly.
Whether he is or isn't a "nice" person should not come into the equation. It is up to the judge at a trial like this to remind the jurors that they have to focus entirely on the facts and the evidence presented by the prosecution and the defence in the courtroom - and to try and dismiss any speculation that may be flying about in the outside world.
It must be very difficult to do this but it the only way justice can really work properly.
r988 said:
i saw a photo yesterday of his face and from his eyes he looks a right nasty spiteful charachter,i dont like him..
I hope your never on my jury
well he is a cab driver, remember they know everything, unlike us simple folk.
I do alot of dealing face to face and can normally tell by the eyes what ime up against,just something ive learnt to look for.
Eric Mc said:
He wasn't on trial for being "cunning and manipulative". He was on trial for murder.
Whether he is or isn't a "nice" person should not come into the equation. It is up to the judge at a trial like this to remind the jurors that they have to focus entirely on the facts and the evidence presented by the prosecution and the defence in the courtroom - and to try and dismiss any speculation that may be flying about in the outside world.
It must be very difficult to do this but it the only way justice can really work properly.
Donut said:
He wasn't on trial for being "cunning and manipulative". He was on trial for murder.
Whether he is or isn't a "nice" person should not come into the equation. It is up to the judge at a trial like this to remind the jurors that they have to focus entirely on the facts and the evidence presented by the prosecution and the defence in the courtroom - and to try and dismiss any speculation that may be flying about in the outside world.
It must be very difficult to do this but it the only way justice can really work properly.
I think its a completely cobblers system, and I have little or no faith in a jury system to find an acceptable answer apart from when crooks are really stupid, or the fact that the jurors have a 50% chance of not mucking up.
You can argue there isn't a better system but you don't have to be proud of it.
Einion Yrth said:
I do alot of dealing face to face and can normally tell by the eyes what ime up against,just something ive learnt to look for.
Sorry, but that falls well below the standard of proof required in criminal proceedings.
ZR1cliff said:
i dont like him but then that doesnt make him guilty
Is he capable though,i feel he is,its up to the police to provide the evidence.
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