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Not sure? Well from 2008 you'll know pricicely who you are due to the wonderfull new New Labour invention, the ID card!
Not only you will know, many other government and possibly non govrmnent organisations will know too, crime will stop, utterly, so will ID theft and terrorism. the money we'll save by needing no police will ofcourse pay for at least part of the ID card scheme. The rest of the funds will probably come from selling the data, barely £300 per peson of taxpayers mone (but not directly out of your pocket) will be needed.
Sounds scarey? dont worry , this will all be tied to biomeric identification, things you cant change about yourself, like fingerprints, retina maps, it'll be a slight problem once its broken and you cant throw the key away but we'll face that problem later...
Next step is compulsary RFID tags, should remove the need to tell anyone where you are as well as who you are...
Not only you will know, many other government and possibly non govrmnent organisations will know too, crime will stop, utterly, so will ID theft and terrorism. the money we'll save by needing no police will ofcourse pay for at least part of the ID card scheme. The rest of the funds will probably come from selling the data, barely £300 per peson of taxpayers mone (but not directly out of your pocket) will be needed.
Sounds scarey? dont worry , this will all be tied to biomeric identification, things you cant change about yourself, like fingerprints, retina maps, it'll be a slight problem once its broken and you cant throw the key away but we'll face that problem later...
Next step is compulsary RFID tags, should remove the need to tell anyone where you are as well as who you are...
deltafox said:You not planning on holiday abroad in the next few years then?
Makes no odds for me, im not having one. They can go F K themselves with a garden rake for all i care, i still am not having one.
It's a stupid, stupid idea. ID cards are one thing - lots of other European countries have them, but a centralised computer database? With this government's record of installing new computer systems, that's going to work isn't it! Still not sure how having everyone's details in one place is going to make the country safer either
Seem to remember hearing that the cost of introducing the scheme would be approximately equal to increasing the number of policemen in this country by 50%.
I believe they have ID cards in Spain - including Madrid.
Had this been introduced, say, a year ago, I believe the 7/7 bombers would have had perfectly good ID cards.
I believe it won't be compulsory to carry one, but just to own one.
On the positive side, I also believe that ID cards will be Labour's very own "Poll Tax".
Had this been introduced, say, a year ago, I believe the 7/7 bombers would have had perfectly good ID cards.
I believe it won't be compulsory to carry one, but just to own one.
On the positive side, I also believe that ID cards will be Labour's very own "Poll Tax".
Frik said:
Makes no odds for me, im not having one. They can go F
It's a stupid, stupid idea. ID cards are one thing - lots of other European countries have them, but a centralised computer database? With this government's record of installing new computer systems, that's going to work isn't it! Still not sure how having everyone's details in one place is going to make the country safer either
Seem to remember hearing that the cost of introducing the scheme would be approximately equal to increasing the number of policemen in this country by 50%.
Too right, I've caught the bus 6 times in the past two weeks, 4 of those times the oyster card reader was broken, all this means is I get a free trip each and the wonder tracker gizmo can't record a damn thing. That's not even unusual, the oyster card thing is quite often broken, and if they can't get something as simple as that to work how are can they get anything else to?
Guess they were right though, Oyster card is much cheaper
May not be a problem now but, if this country gets hijacked by the extreme left or right, we'll have a serious problem.
Ten years ago, I wouldn't have even contemplated such an event, but Blair has proved he can dismantle our traditions and freedoms in a very short time, so anything is possible.
Then there's the spectre of control from Europe. Those nutters are dangerous.
Ten years ago, I wouldn't have even contemplated such an event, but Blair has proved he can dismantle our traditions and freedoms in a very short time, so anything is possible.
Then there's the spectre of control from Europe. Those nutters are dangerous.
History of this is the Tories wanted to have ID cards for people claiming benefits, to help prevent benefit fraud. Not a bad idea. Unfortunately the lefties thought this divisive, so to make it 'fair' they came up with ID cards for all.
Everything else is trying to justify the unjustifiable, all bollx.
Everything else is trying to justify the unjustifiable, all bollx.
s2art said:Governments always want control. They forget that they are our servants, not the other way around. The mistake of a socialist leaning government is that want their control centralised and homogenised (as with everything else).
History of this is the Tories wanted to have ID cards for people claiming benefits, to help prevent benefit fraud. Not a bad idea. Unfortunately the lefties thought this divisive, so to make it 'fair' they came up with ID cards for all.
Everything else is trying to justify the unjustifiable, all bollx.
I have my fingers crossed that the task will be so great as to render itself redundant. Here's hoping anyway.
ferrisbueller said:
It probably won't make that much difference at all, seeing as we already have to prove ID when travelling, so it'll probably just make a nice easy combined passport/driving licence etc...
He isn't old enough to understand what blood sucking leeches the government are...Just you wait until you're paying 40% tax young southpaw...and every other stealth tax going...then see what you think
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