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Parrot of Doom

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23,075 posts

265 months

Tuesday 14th February 2006
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http://newenergytimes.com/Library/200

Some interesting stuff in there.

www.dstl.gov.uk/

I wonder if any of it has a ring of truth?

polus

4,343 posts

256 months

Tuesday 14th February 2006
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Only had a flick through becuase Im tired...but

That type of cold fusion has been frowned upon many times, Im sceptical about that.

Ive read about asymmetric capacitors being investigated by the US DOD for drag reduction so maybe theres something in it but the setup they have there doesnt seem convincing.



up-the-dubs

4,282 posts

260 months

Tuesday 14th February 2006
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My Uncle is a professor of something and, apparantly, is one of the leaders in the cold fusion field. I don't know, every time he opens his mouth about it I fall asleep.

..... Haven't seen him in 8 years......Oxford I think......




Edit:A quick Google and it seems I was wrong and Ignorant.
Pectroscopy Europe.com said:
Spectroscopic diagnostic techniques developed at Culham are an important ingredient in actively influencing the stability of the plasma required for nuclear fusion. Head of the spectroscopic diagnostics research, Dr Patrick Carolan, says: “The outcome of our research will lead to spectroscopic diagnostics being incorporated into a feedback system designed to “tune” the magnetic structure and density, and so increasing the stability and performance of the plasma.” The eventual commercialisation of nuclear fusion will depend on being able to maintain a stable, self-sustaining plasma capable of producing power continuously.

It seems he's in Nucular Physics of some sort, but I fell asleep again.

>> Edited by up-the-dubs on Tuesday 14th February 23:59

dilbert

7,741 posts

262 months

Tuesday 14th February 2006
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Parrot of Doom said:
http://newenergytimes.com/Library/200

Some interesting stuff in there.

www.dstl.gov.uk/

I wonder if any of it has a ring of truth?


Nothing changes then......

One day, they'll try to do something difficult, and expensive based on conventional science, rather than what they're doing now which is impossible (and hence cheap) based on whacky science.

The challenge is there, should they choose to accept it! In the mean time, they'll just have to accept that the technological crap is being beaten out of them, by foreign commercial/military entities.

Quote edited in, to avoid possible offence;


>> Edited by dilbert on Tuesday 14th February 23:58

Parrot of Doom

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23,075 posts

265 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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While I agree that conventional science needs a good level of funding, surely its worthwhile exploring some of these interesting little theories? Theres still a great deal about the universe that we don't know or understand. I still struggle to comprehend exactly how magnetism works

dilbert

7,741 posts

262 months

Wednesday 15th February 2006
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Parrot of Doom said:
While I agree that conventional science needs a good level of funding, surely its worthwhile exploring some of these interesting little theories? Theres still a great deal about the universe that we don't know or understand. I still struggle to comprehend exactly how magnetism works


I totally agree. But that's conventional science. What we have is people that don't comprehend magnetisim, trying to understand science that isn't science.

People like Podkletnov make their money, by knowing what there is to know, understanding who doesn't and then exploiting them with a mix of dodgey science.

The thing is that first off you get someone like Podkletnov offering the impossible, but for a high price. Then you ask some relatively straightforward questions, that theres no getting around, and the whole thing disappears.

Then you get a whole pile of people offering solutions to the same problems, that people have known about for years. They have huge failings. They then get huge chunks of money and the huge failings become apparent.

All that time, people have been crying out for funding to do things that are far more expensive. These things are expensive because they are difficult, and not some cardboard mockup of dodgey science, which is inherently cheap. The credible people look on in horror as the money is totally wasted, and the best thing they can do with their time is describe the great things that could have been done with the same money, albeit limited.

You don't have to believe me, but I have seen it, first hand.

The government have people that know what they're talking about, it's just that the people with the money, don't understand them. The money likes people like Podkletnov, because he'll spit out any old gibberish that makes people feel fat, happy and clever. Because it's gibberish, nothing tangible materialises.

Meanwhile the real, unfunded intellectual property, is transferred out of the country, and the benefit will not be gained. It's a shame that the benefit cannot be measured in a "per capita" way, but I'd imagine it would go some considerable way to solving our economic ills.

Maybe the interest rates can just keep going down, but I don't think so.



>> Edited by dilbert on Wednesday 15th February 02:12