Foundation question....
Foundation question....
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chilli

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17,320 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Morning all,

I'm putting up a shed at some stage and need a bit of advice...Now to most this should be pretty straight forward but I appear to be struggling. Now, if I want to put down a foundation of 6ft x 8ft x 3ins deep, how much "stuff" do I need to order??!! I was planning on buying a dry mix, which I'm told will go off with a bit of water/damp.

Thanks for any advice!

esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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chilli said:
Morning all,

I'm putting up a shed at some stage and need a bit of advice...Now to most this should be pretty straight forward but I appear to be struggling. Now, if I want to put down a foundation of 6ft x 8ft x 3ins deep, how much "stuff" do I need to order??!! I was planning on buying a dry mix, which I'm told will go off with a bit of water/damp.

Thanks for any advice!



I do beleive you have 12 cubic feet there?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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chilli said:
I was planning on buying a dry mix


would have thought you would be better of with a traditional wet concrete myself.

shutter the area, mix, pour, level and let it go off.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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esselte said:
I do beleive you have 12 cubic feet there?


Thats the fella.

esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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B17NNS said:
esselte said:
I do beleive you have 12 cubic feet there?


Thats the fella.


Or about .33 cubic metre?

clairey

696 posts

291 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Sorry for the sillyness, must be the mood I am in, but was going to suggest Max Factor, before i actually read the thread

B17NNS

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278 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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clairey said:
Max Factor


silly girl, trying to get involved in a manly discussion about DIY, concrete and foundations.

women - know your place.

robinhood21

31,267 posts

263 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Why not level the site, blind with sharp sand, and slab? Then, if ever you feel the need to reposition the shed, twill be easy.

xm5er

5,094 posts

279 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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esselte said:
B17NNS said:
esselte said:
I do beleive you have 12 cubic feet there?


Thats the fella.


Or about .33 cubic metre?


Or just over a third of a tonne.

chilli

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17,320 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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robinhood21 said:
Why not level the site, blind with sharp sand, and slab? Then, if ever you feel the need to reposition the shed, twill be easy.


Thanks all...Max Factor, honestly

Not a bad idea this. Don't like the idea of wet cement.....Bit tricky for an office boy. The sand is a good idea. I trust it won't "move"??!!!

mandat

4,651 posts

269 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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xm5er said:
esselte said:
B17NNS said:
esselte said:
I do beleive you have 12 cubic feet there?


Thats the fella.


Or about .33 cubic metre?


Or just over a third of a tonne.


The Density of concrete is on average 2400 kg/m3, therefore 0.33m3 will be approximately 0.8 of a tonne. (800kg)

alfaman

6,416 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Many sheds don't actually need a solid slab foundation , as they have wooden floors.

You may be able to just position the shed's floor joists on small concrete "pad" foundations , which need much less concrete ( all the pads will need to be at the same level )


esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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alfaman said:
Many sheds don't actually need a solid slab foundation , as they have wooden floors.

You may be able to just position the shed's floor joists on small concrete "pad" foundations , which need much less concrete ( all the pads will need to be at the same level )




I just did the sharp sand and slabs trick for mine

robinhood21

31,267 posts

263 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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chilli said:
robinhood21 said:
Why not level the site, blind with sharp sand, and slab? Then, if ever you feel the need to reposition the shed, twill be easy.


Thanks all...Max Factor, honestly

Not a bad idea this. Don't like the idea of wet cement.....Bit tricky for an office boy. The sand is a good idea. I trust it won't "move"??!!!


If the subsoil wants to move theres nothing that you can do to stop it moving (within certain financial constraints). But for a shed, the above is perfectly acceptable.

alfaman

6,416 posts

265 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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esselte said:
alfaman said:
Many sheds don't actually need a solid slab foundation , as they have wooden floors.

You may be able to just position the shed's floor joists on small concrete "pad" foundations , which need much less concrete ( all the pads will need to be at the same level )




I just did the sharp sand and slabs trick for mine


you could even use a few levelled-up breeze blocks on some comapcted sand or harcore to support the floor. ( much less mess than concrete)

chilli

Original Poster:

17,320 posts

267 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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alfaman said:
esselte said:
alfaman said:
Many sheds don't actually need a solid slab foundation , as they have wooden floors.

You may be able to just position the shed's floor joists on small concrete "pad" foundations , which need much less concrete ( all the pads will need to be at the same level )




I just did the sharp sand and slabs trick for mine


you could even use a few levelled-up breeze blocks on some comapcted sand or harcore to support the floor. ( much less mess than concrete)


This is the one......Nine breeze blocks strategically placed, and held in place by a dry mix...Ok?!!
However, would the floor of the shed be ok to hold the weight of my bike (165kg)?!

Thanks again.

xm5er

5,094 posts

279 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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mandat said:
xm5er said:
esselte said:
B17NNS said:
esselte said:
I do beleive you have 12 cubic feet there?


Thats the fella.


Or about .33 cubic metre?


Or just over a third of a tonne.


The Density of concrete is on average 2400 kg/m3, therefore 0.33m3 will be approximately 0.8 of a tonne. (800kg)


How much mass does the water add?

I did a foundation for my kiddies play house last weekend and worked out that i needed .5 cumeter of concrete, the chap at the builders merchants said that I'd need half a tonne of sand and gravel mix for that, and lo and behold, he was right.

racingsnake

1,071 posts

256 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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Water has a density of 1.
1 litre = 1kg.

xm5er

5,094 posts

279 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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racingsnake said:

Water has a density of 1.
1 litre = 1kg.


D'oh. But how much water do yu need for 1 cu metre o concrete.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

280 months

Thursday 16th February 2006
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What ive done with shed foundation/supports,is mark out the area and dig equal holes in that area big enough to take half or a full concrete block laid flat then lay the block on a bed of sand...level these all in...then lay the shed bottm on to double check level and also checking give in floor....if there is too much give in one area add another block accordingly.

A little tip before laying the shed bottom on permanatly is to staple/pin some waterproof plastic where wood meets block to help stop rot.

HTH