Irving jailed for 3 years
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Jaglover said:
Just heard that the guy Irving has been jailed for 3 years for saying the Holocaust did not happen and was a lie made up by the Jews.
Jailed where?
Austria
they have strict laws about Holocaust denial.
Oh well, maybe that will teach him to stay in the parts of the civilised world that do not stamp on free speech.
s2art said:
Just heard that the guy Irving has been jailed for 3 years for saying the Holocaust did not happen and was a lie made up by the Jews.
Jailed where?
Austria
they have strict laws about Holocaust denial.
Oh well, maybe that will teach him to stay in the parts of the civilised world that do not stamp on free speech.
Not the UK then
gorvid said:
Mind you, the comments and their sentiments are pretty disgusting
It does seem this way....
Anyone on here read this stuff?
I have read a little and was disgusted enough. I Ddo not feel sorry for him one bit. Serves him right.
You cannot alter history by disapproving of it - something he should have learned before embarking upoin such a silly campaign in the first place!
Combover
gorvid said:
Mind you, the comments and their sentiments are pretty disgusting
It does seem this way....
Anyone on here read this stuff?
Have not read it, but it seems he made up some historical facts to justify his assertion that far less than 6 million jews were killed. Essentially he argued that the infrastructure just wasnt there to ship so many.
968 said:
seems rather harsh.
Perhaps, but that's the law there. Maybe he should have been aware of it prior to making his comments......
Mind you, the comments and their sentiments are pretty disgusting, so I can't really pretend I feel sorry for him.
He was aware of it but couldn't resist the draw of giving a lecture to a right wing student body (in Austria? How could that happen?).
How big can an ego get?
[adam]stand back - I don't know how big this thing gets![/adam]
In 1992 he had a run in with the law when he denied the existance of gas chambers at Auschwitz and was fined £3,000 by a German Court,the latest charge in Austria relates to a federal law that makes it a crime to diminish,deny or justify the holocaust and is punishable with a ten year jail term.
What i dont understand is the latest charges relat to two seperate speeches in ....1989?
What i dont understand is the latest charges relat to two seperate speeches in ....1989?
planetdave said:
He was aware of it but couldn't resist the draw of giving a lecture to a right wing student body (in Austria? How could that happen?).
Thats just stupid...
It describes him as a 'right wing historian'...
Now is he a historian who feels there are untold truths (albeit right wing ones)...
Or is he a right wing nut, who wants to just change history..?
When i did History A-Level in 2004 We studied Nazi Germany and parts of the Holocaust
David Irving's books are About how the Holocaust was made up by the Jews against Hitler but he still acknowlages the fact that the gas chambers at Auswitch exist
Obviously schools don't teach Irving's way of thinking since his theories are a load of bo''oxs and the trate amongst history teachers is that Irving is a bit of a looney
He was arrested last Nov in Austria after giving a lecture to some students over there
He has beened detained in Austria since then until his trial today
He hwas been given a 3 year sentance after pleading guilty to the charges (but will still write books in prison
Luckily there aren't many historians who agree to his theories which means he is on his own...
just my 2p
john
David Irving's books are About how the Holocaust was made up by the Jews against Hitler but he still acknowlages the fact that the gas chambers at Auswitch exist
Obviously schools don't teach Irving's way of thinking since his theories are a load of bo''oxs and the trate amongst history teachers is that Irving is a bit of a looney
He was arrested last Nov in Austria after giving a lecture to some students over there
He has beened detained in Austria since then until his trial today
He hwas been given a 3 year sentance after pleading guilty to the charges (but will still write books in prison
Luckily there aren't many historians who agree to his theories which means he is on his own...
just my 2p
john
combover said:
Mind you, the comments and their sentiments are pretty disgusting
It does seem this way....
Anyone on here read this stuff?
I have read a little and was disgusted enough. I Ddo not feel sorry for him one bit. Serves him right.
You cannot alter history by disapproving of it - something he should have learned before embarking upoin such a silly campaign in the first place!
Combover
As long as his comments did not incite violence, there are no grounds to imprison him. You can't believe in free speech and then agree that someone should be sent to prison for questioning history.
gorvid said:
He was aware of it but couldn't resist the draw of giving a lecture to a right wing student body (in Austria? How could that happen?).
Thats just stupid...
It describes him as a 'right wing historian'...
Now is he a historian who feels there are untold truths (albeit right wing ones)...
Or is he a right wing nut, who wants to just change history..?
Bit of both apparently. He has done some good historical research, however he is not above twisting the facts.
ehyouwhat said:
It was 17 years ago, and he has 'changed his mind' since then.
At the end of the day it was a silly thing to say, but not deservant of 3 years in prison.
I think the point is that this verminous creature has made it his lifelong ambition to convince the world that the Holocaust never happened. His mind is warped beyond belief. This is his life - period. It's not just 1 comment 17 years ago. It's speech after speech after speech. And then what about the people that actually believe his crap - and believe me they do.
Perhaps if lampshades had been made from his family's skin or even bars of soap things would be different.
3 years - rubbish - i'd have taken a different route.
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