medium difficulty physics question
Discussion
gasblaster said:
Strong sealed container full of pure water ice. As the ice melts, its reducing volume creates a vacuum. As something needs to fill the vacuum, I assume this is water vapour - so, does the melting icewater 'boil' to produce the vapour?
If something needed to fill the vacuum it wouldn't be a vacuum?
gasblaster said:Yes. The pressure inside the vessel will remain way below normal atmospheric pressure, but a certain amount of water will evaporate to produce a thin vapour in the container. The same would happen if you put an ice cube in a pressure vessel and pumped out all the air (i.e. the state of some of the water would go straight from solid to gas).
Strong sealed container full of pure water ice. As the ice melts, its reducing volume creates a vacuum. As something needs to fill the vacuum, I assume this is water vapour - so, does the melting icewater 'boil' to produce the vapour?
Here you go:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/
The pressure in the "not-quite-vacuum" is determined by the saturation vapour density of water. There's a table at the top of the page. Assuming your vessel is at 0 centigrade, the pressure in the vessel above the ice will be 4.58mm of mercury which is 0.006 atmospheres.
>> Edited by ATG on Wednesday 22 February 19:37
ATG said:
Assuming your vessel is at 0 centigrade, the pressure in the vessel above the ice will be 4.58mm of mercury which is 0.006 atmospheres.
Bugger. Here we go with a perfectly good question with which to propose wild and untestable theories of the universe, with planes taking off whilst stationary in clouds of water vapour, and you go and give a sensible scientific answer and remove all these delightful hypotheses.
This is PH, you know.

Size Nine Elm said:Sorry, you're right. Let's see now ... 'kay ... "the water wouldn't boil much because Corvettes (which means "toilet" in Burma) can't go round corners unless they're on trailers and Speed 6 engines spread radoiactive waste in primary schools. And the government likes it that way and photos it with speed cameras."
ATG said:
Assuming your vessel is at 0 centigrade, the pressure in the vessel above the ice will be 4.58mm of mercury which is 0.006 atmospheres.
Bugger. Here we go with a perfectly good question with which to propose wild and untestable theories of the universe, with planes taking off whilst stationary in clouds of water vapour, and you go and give a sensible scientific answer and remove all these delightful hypotheses.
This is PH, you know.
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