Weapons experts needed....
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Petrol_noggin

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Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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Can someone firstly tell me what this ammo is from, and secondly is there anyway you can see its been 'disarmed? Not a test its just I have no idea.



aldi

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268 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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"I'm a weapons man, me"

Petrol_noggin

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Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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ah shaun bean im so glad your here, could you please tell me what kind of round that is? and if its disarmed? thanks hunnybun.

HarryW

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300 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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Looks like a de-bulleted round can't see anything in the picture to get the scale but poss a 12.7mm (50cal). If it is then its ulikely to have any explosives in it.

randlemarcus

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262 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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Looks like a bullet on its own, without the rest of the round, to me. To be certain, the non pointy end shouldnt have a little circle in the middle, and a lip round the edge. Given that you can see the rifling marks that hold it in the cartridge, cant see the lip on the bottom, the bottom isnt flat, and you can see the boattail shape, I'm going to stick my neck out, and say its not dangerous.

Petrol_noggin

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Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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HarryW said:
Looks like a de-bulleted round can't see anything in the picture to get the scale but poss a 12.7mm (50cal). If it is then its ulikely to have any explosives in it.


Thanks, the round is just over 5 inches long if that helps.

s a m

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268 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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Hi,

They are probably live and will detonate via a remote signal – they are highly explosive. And must be stored in a radiation proof 6 tonne standard issue storage box.

Just kidding, I have 2 exactly like that. They are the front end of a shell from a Tornado I believe, or similar plane. They are just bullets basically but big ones. I was given them as a memento after a little tour at a test range up in Scotland.

The shell case is the bit that would have had the "bang" bit to fire the bullet, bar that, its just a lump of metal.

I will see if I can take a photo in a moment.

GingerNinja

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289 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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Were those free with your Xbox 360?

HarryW

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300 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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Petrol_noggin said:
HarryW said:
Looks like a de-bulleted round can't see anything in the picture to get the scale but poss a 12.7mm (50cal). If it is then its ulikely to have any explosives in it.


Thanks, the round is just over 5 inches long if that helps.

Whats the diameter , there are some very complex bullets out there and the diameter will help. However as I said earlier it more than likely to be a lump of metal .

s a m

509 posts

268 months

Wednesday 22nd February 2006
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They are a practise round – probably fired from a Tornado or Jaguar, they reuse the cases and the projectile if they can find them on the range.

They are in the garage… too late to go looking now. But they are identical, with shell cases.

Pics to follow if anyone’s that interested, otherwise, not dangerous – Certified Safe by Sam the Weapons expert. Why didn’t Tony listen to me!

FourWheelDrift

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315 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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Petrol_noggin said:
Can someone firstly tell me what this ammo is from,


A gun.

Petrol_noggin said:
and secondly is there anyway you can see its been 'disarmed? Not a test its just I have no idea.


hit it with a hammer then count your fingers, less than 5 suggests it's an explosive round.

Petrol_noggin

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Thursday 23rd February 2006
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It came in a box with a 4 foot blue rear portion of an air launched missile fins n' all, a few large calibre bullets, and this fat bastard, not too big (8" long 9 1/2"diameter) but weighs 9 kilos, I was told its a WW1 tank round??


HarryW

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Thursday 23rd February 2006
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I'd be more woried about the 4 foot section you removed from the back of it, however as it was a blue colour there is good chance its a drill round.
If it has a diameter in excess of 8" as you state then yes there would be a possibility it has explosives within, its as shell not a bullet .
Personally I'd get it checked out first place would be to speak to the bib, don't instill panic into a young copper though . Ask if they can arrange for the local army/navy/crab bomb disposal peeps to have a look at it.

R988

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260 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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Do you know or could you measure the diameter?

ripton

429 posts

263 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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where the feck did you get that lot from? ebay?

simpo two

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296 months

Thursday 23rd February 2006
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I'd guess 30mm.

However 30mm is cannon-size and that means the shells are explosive...

Petrol_noggin

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Thursday 23rd February 2006
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HarryW said:
I'd be more woried about the 4 foot section you removed from the back of it, however as it was a blue colour there is good chance its a drill round.
If it has a diameter in excess of 8" as you state then yes there would be a possibility it has explosives within, its as shell not a bullet .
Personally I'd get it checked out first place would be to speak to the bib, don't instill panic into a young copper though . Ask if they can arrange for the local army/navy/crab bomb disposal peeps to have a look at it.



lmao so i cant turn up in my full camo clutching an explosive round? the 9" diameter i was referring to is the rusty old world war shell in the last pic and it has been drilled from behind so no worries(ooh er!) the missile part is seperate from the original rounds and has had the dummy warhead removed, but it was a trainer anyway, as well as the actual motor etc, it was just the original round I was worried about as it looks untouched.

Petrol_noggin

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Thursday 23rd February 2006
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ripton said:
where the feck did you get that lot from? ebay?


from a special friend

Petrol_noggin

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Thursday 23rd February 2006
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right just measured the little'un in the first pics and its approx 84mm round, says RG83 on it if that helps?

Saddle bum

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Thursday 23rd February 2006
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Petrol_noggin said:
Can someone firstly tell me what this ammo is from, and secondly is there anyway you can see its been 'disarmed? Not a test its just I have no idea.


Looks like a cannon shell, 20-30mm. It is almost certainly inert and was never live. It has been fired 'cos the driving band has been engraved.