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hugh_

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3,750 posts

272 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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I got a heart rate monitor this morning (its a Polar F5TM), so decided to go to the gym and try it out.
Its great, easy to use and setup and tells you everything you could want to know. Only slight glitch is on the bikes it doesnt get a signal from the belt for some reason, but the machine does so thats not a problem.

Anyway, my question is if I row 10,000m (as I usually do) and my average heart rate is at 178bpm (e.g 89% of max, I'm 19) am I eventually going to cripple myself/give myself a heart attack or something.

Cheers
Hugh

editted to add: 10,000m takes me 36m59.5s (I'm rather proud of that )

>> Edited by hugh_ on Friday 24th February 13:45

minicity

1,009 posts

262 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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hugh_ said:
I got a heart rate monitor this morning (its a Polar F5TM), so decided to go to the gym and try it out.
Its great, easy to use and setup and tells you everything you could want to know. Only slight glitch is on the bikes it doesnt get a signal from the belt for some reason, but the machine does so thats not a problem.

Anyway, my question is if I row 10,000m (as I usually do) and my average heart rate is at 178bpm (e.g 89% of max, I'm 19) am I eventually going to cripple myself/give myself a heart attack or something.

Cheers
Hugh

editted to add: 10,000m takes me 36m59.5s (I'm rather proud of that )

>> Edited by hugh_ on Friday 24th February 13:45


178bpm is quite a lot as an average for 36 mins. But, if you can do it, fine. Just build up gradually and warm down too.

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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178bpm is high but you should cope in limited bursts, providing your fit and healthy and haven't got arteries full of butter you should be ok. Not drinking high amounts of caffeine will help too (drinking redbulls and then rowing would be a silly idea).

>> Edited by scorp on Friday 24th February 13:49

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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Remember the "Max Heart Rate = 220 - age" calculation is only a guideline, lots of people don't fit it. It could be that your MHR is higher so 178bpm is less than 89%. Generally, if you can do it (ie 30-40mins at average 178bpm) then it's fine. As already said, make sure you warm up and down well though.

I had a monitor on at a training session that gave a max reading well over 300bpm - we eventually worked out it was getting interference from someone else's chest strap too!

hugh_

Original Poster:

3,750 posts

272 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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minicity said:
hugh_ said:


178bpm is quite a lot as an average for 36 mins. But, if you can do it, fine. Just build up gradually and warm down too.


I always warm up fully, and take about 20 mins to do it starting on the cross trainer then stretching then the bike. I'm less good at the warm down but do do some, usually about 4 mins of very light rowing to stop we stiffening up too much, followed by 15mins cycling where I building the heart rate back up in the first half then gradually bring it down.

scorp said:
178bpm is high but you should cope in limited bursts, providing your fit and healthy and haven't got arteries full of butter you should be ok. Not drinking high amounts of caffeine will help too (drinking redbulls and then rowing would be a silly idea).

>> Edited by scorp on Friday 24th February 13:49


Yep I eat very little butter, 1 block has been known to last me about 3 months! Occasionally drink coffee of tea, usually when sailing, but never in large amounts.

Thanks for all the replies
Hugh

minicity

1,009 posts

262 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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hugh_ said:
minicity said:
hugh_ said:


178bpm is quite a lot as an average for 36 mins. But, if you can do it, fine. Just build up gradually and warm down too.


I always warm up fully, and take about 20 mins to do it starting on the cross trainer then stretching then the bike. I'm less good at the warm down but do do some, usually about 4 mins of very light rowing to stop we stiffening up too much, followed by 15mins cycling where I building the heart rate back up in the first half then gradually bring it down.

scorp said:
178bpm is high but you should cope in limited bursts, providing your fit and healthy and haven't got arteries full of butter you should be ok. Not drinking high amounts of caffeine will help too (drinking redbulls and then rowing would be a silly idea).

>> Edited by scorp on Friday 24th February 13:49


Yep I eat very little butter, 1 block has been known to last me about 3 months! Occasionally drink coffee of tea, usually when sailing, but never in large amounts.

Thanks for all the replies
Hugh



Sounds like you'll be OK. Make sure the warm down actually joins up with the big effort though. I hate seeing people stop suddenly and collapse in a heap. I almost have a heart attack just watching them.

DieselJohn

2,114 posts

287 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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ewenm said:
Remember the "Max Heart Rate = 220 - age" calculation is only a guideline, lots of people don't fit it. It could be that your MHR is higher so 178bpm is less than 89%. Generally, if you can do it (ie 30-40mins at average 178bpm) then it's fine. As already said, make sure you warm up and down well though.

I had a monitor on at a training session that gave a max reading well over 300bpm - we eventually worked out it was getting interference from someone else's chest strap too!


ewenm knows his stuff unsurprisingly.

I am 25 so aparently my max heart rate is 195 but I can hit 215 no problem at all, suspect my real max is about 220.

I could easily hold at 178 for half an hour as well.

I always have a very high resting heart rate, even at my peak fitness I've never managed to get below about 65. My friend ranges from about 40-180 and he is a far better athlete than me, naturally and training wise.

What is your resting and max ewenm, just out of interest?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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I know you. You know you. And I know you know that I know you.

Code Monkey

3,318 posts

288 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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the warm down should be treated with as much attention as the warm up, most people finish on the weights and hit the beer, and weights should be part in the middle between all the cardio and stretching.

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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DieselJohn said:
What is your resting and max ewenm, just out of interest?


Don't know really. Last time I was tested I think it came out at 42 resting 187 max but that was about a year ago and I've since heard that the lab I used gives occasional spurious results (especially for VO2 Max). I tend to base my training far more on how I'm feeling than what a heart rate monitor says. When doing HR-based training I found although the HR suggested I should be still in recovery between reps, experience told me I should be doing the next effort.

StuB

6,695 posts

270 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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hugh_ said:
10,000m takes me 36m59.5s (I'm rather proud of that )


I'm impressed (if that's on a Concept II rower). Bloody young sprog - are you sure the name's not 'Huge'?

angusfaldo

2,831 posts

305 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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I bought th F6 last week. Great fun using it. I like their stuff.

I'm 41. I reckon if my heart saw the wrong side of 200bpm it would explode

Lion-O

242 posts

259 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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DieselJohn said:


I am 25 so aparently my max heart rate is 195 but I can hit 215 no problem at all, suspect my real max is about 220.


215 is incredibly high. Lance Armstrong tops out at about 204. Highest I've ever managed was 196 during a periodised VO2 test.

DieselJohn

2,114 posts

287 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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Lion-O said:
DieselJohn said:


I am 25 so aparently my max heart rate is 195 but I can hit 215 no problem at all, suspect my real max is about 220.


215 is incredibly high. Lance Armstrong tops out at about 204. Highest I've ever managed was 196 during a periodised VO2 test.


I really don't think its a good thing. I'm no great athlete by any means.

Sitting here at my desk my heart rate is 76 bpm, which makes me out to be really unfit but I'm an 11 stone, non-smoker, occasional drinker that can easily run for an hour without stopping. My guess is I've got a fairly small heart and it has to go fast to get the blood round?

>> Edited by DieselJohn on Friday 24th February 16:04

hugh_

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3,750 posts

272 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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StuB said:
hugh_ said:
10,000m takes me 36m59.5s (I'm rather proud of that )


I'm impressed (if that's on a Concept II rower). Bloody young sprog - are you sure the name's not 'Huge'?


Yeah it was on a concept 3 model D. My nickname at school was huge, cos I'm 6"3-6"4 and used to be overweight so was fairly large.

cwk

213 posts

297 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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Hi Hugh,

Assuming you're using the Concept 2 rower (as that's what most gyms have) get yourself down to www.concept2.co.uk/forum/ for some advice. There are some very serious health gurus there, and all the advice you could ever possibly want.

I've just got back into going to the gym and also did 10,000m last night. My time was just over 43 minutes , so well done.

HTH

Charles

edited to say: "must type faster...."

>> Edited by cwk on Friday 24th February 16:50

markbe

1,755 posts

257 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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Well I'M not very fit and 54.Went on one of those all singing and dancing bike machines on holiday,did 40mins,then tried the machines age fitness test,took 16 mins, then it told me I had an age fitness of 23!!

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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markbe said:
Well I'M not very fit and 54.Went on one of those all singing and dancing bike machines on holiday,did 40mins,then tried the machines age fitness test,took 16 mins, then it told me I had an age fitness of 23!!

Thats because most 23 year olds these days are chronic binge drinkers

mrandy

828 posts

249 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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that sort of heart rate is only dangerous if youre unfit,for a fit person its fine

markbe

1,755 posts

257 months

Friday 24th February 2006
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scorp said:
markbe said:
Well I'M not very fit and 54.Went on one of those all singing and dancing bike machines on holiday,did 40mins,then tried the machines age fitness test,took 16 mins, then it told me I had an age fitness of 23!!

Thats because most 23 year olds these days are chronic binge drinkers


That proves I will be in good company,hic'...