The £53 million quid heist - economy question
The £53 million quid heist - economy question
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lightstepper

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318 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Sorry this question is probably obvious to most here -

So 53 mil was stolen. Thats a fair amount of dosh. So assuming its insured and will get essentailly "replaced" - does that mean that they have to write off £53 mil elsewhere or does the economy become somehow £53 million richer in some respects?

Sorry if that doesnt make much sense - I am finding it quite hard to write what I actually mean (possibly due to vodka intake this evening )

john75

5,303 posts

278 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Guess it will get written off the £53,000,000 added to the M0 account of the Bank of England.

M0 = Cash
M1
M2= Can not remeber from A Level Economics how these are made up.
M3
M4

Pat H

8,058 posts

287 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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lightstepper said:
So assuming its insured and will get essentailly "replaced" - does that mean that they have to write off £53 mil elsewhere or does the economy become somehow £53 million richer in some respects?
Nah, its just the redistribution of wealth, comerade.....

More spends for the villains and less for the insurance company, its underwriters, shareholders and employees.

m1spw

5,999 posts

256 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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I would imagine that they'll just print a bit more money

Oh, and its not that much when our GDP is £1.1 trillion!

And the govt spent about £20-25 million on interest payments on their debts and loans etc last year alone...

>> Edited by m1spw on Tuesday 28th February 21:19

bermyandy

2,050 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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they lose 53m hat is probably insured. they will pay the first, lets say say 10m, which comes out reserves and is effectively a loss. The insurance company will have recieved a premium which it has invested and earned a return on. In addition the insurance company will have a reserve on its balance sheet that it felt prudent to allow for any future claims relating to this policy.

If the amount paid equals the reserve, no biggy - if its in excess of the reserve, it has to pay extra, and is essentially a loss. Most insurance companies actually run on a loss i.e. they pay out all their premiums they receive in claims. They make their money by investing the premium in the meantime.

falcemob

8,248 posts

267 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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It's not actually leaving the economy is it, it's just being moved round a bit.

mattley

3,039 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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It's a piss in the ocean against the UK economy, really doesn't make any difference.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,044 posts

266 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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I'd like to see 'em filling in next year's proposal...

"Any claims in the last five years?"...

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

285 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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53mil is a drop in the ocean, these notes were due to leave circulation anyhow wernt they? So they just take out a little bit more without replacing it, if there bothered.

dogwatch

6,385 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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Bit like the national lottery really.

We the public each cough up a little bit in the form of higher prices to pay the higher premiums charged by the insurance industry as the loss would have been spread across the market. The villans get the lump sum but also have to pay a bit more like everyone else.

Ice pack please!

mcflurry

9,192 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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m1spw said:

And the govt spent about £20-25 million on interest payments on their debts and loans etc last year alone...


Are those the labour party's "seasonally adjusted" figures???


simpo two

93,063 posts

296 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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If I was Gordon Brown I'd offer split it with them. Amnesty for them, £27M bonus for Gordy to waste on foreigners.

john75

5,303 posts

278 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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m1spw said:
I would imagine that they'll just print a bit more money

Oh, and its not that much when our GDP is £1.1 trillion!

And the govt spent about £20-25 million on interest payments on their debts and loans etc last year alone...

>> Edited by m1spw on Tuesday 28th February 21:19


Not certain on those figures interest must be more than £20-25m per year

Net debt was £442.7 billion at the end of January, compared with £406.8 billion a year earlier. The Pre-Budget Report 2005 forecast net debt at the end of March 2006 is £456.6 billion.

Source: Office for National Statistics

Even at 4% interest that would work out at around the £30bn mark.

m1spw

5,999 posts

256 months

Tuesday 28th February 2006
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mcflurry said:
m1spw said:

And the govt spent about £20-25 million on interest payments on their debts and loans etc last year alone...


Are those the labour party's "seasonally adjusted" figures???



Don't know, my economics teacher were showing us the figures this afternoon - that was the expected level for 2005-2006, and the proper figures for this year will be released in a few months time.

And it will be higher in fact, as due to the lower than expected growth last year the Govt didn't get as much in tax as they expected and so they will have had to borrow more