Cameron wants 'green growth' and 'no travel restrictions'
Cameron wants 'green growth' and 'no travel restrictions'
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johnph

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1,097 posts

260 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politic

Opinions?

Sounds good - even though manmade global warming is a pack of lies i think he's on to something. Duplicitousness amongst politicians isn't always such a bad thing...

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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I'd like to see man-made polution being tackled, all this crap about global warming is a distraction from the actual damage we are doing like filling rivers full of crap, and deforesting billions of acres (internationally). Not that im a greeny or anything, just though i'd add my 2p to the topic.

MikeyT

18,506 posts

302 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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johnph said:
even though manmade global warming is a pack of lies


Is it really?

s2art

18,942 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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Well I cant tell what he means by that, sounds reasonable but....

wolves_wanderer

12,959 posts

268 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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s2art said:
Well I cant tell what he means by that, sounds reasonable but....
Sounds like a typical post-Blair meaningless politcian soundbite to me, something that tries to mean all things to all men.

alfaman

6,416 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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johnph said:
even though manmade global warming is a pack of lies


what makes you say that ?



r988

7,501 posts

260 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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scorp said:
I'd like to see man-made polution being tackled, all this crap about global warming is a distraction from the actual damage we are doing like filling rivers full of crap, and deforesting billions of acres (internationally). Not that im a greeny or anything, just though i'd add my 2p to the topic.



I think your right actually, mainly because lots of profit is being generated through those activities.

tinman0

18,231 posts

271 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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r988 said:
scorp said:
I'd like to see man-made polution being tackled, all this crap about global warming is a distraction from the actual damage we are doing like filling rivers full of crap, and deforesting billions of acres (internationally). Not that im a greeny or anything, just though i'd add my 2p to the topic.



I think your right actually, mainly because lots of profit is being generated through those activities.


No.

We should stop making business in this country anymore more expensive than it already is. More regulation will increase costs, allowing many more cheaper competitors to undercut our own industries who don't have this regulation.

bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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tinman0 said:
r988 said:
scorp said:
I'd like to see man-made polution being tackled, all this crap about global warming is a distraction from the actual damage we are doing like filling rivers full of crap, and deforesting billions of acres (internationally). Not that im a greeny or anything, just though i'd add my 2p to the topic.



I think your right actually, mainly because lots of profit is being generated through those activities.


No.

We should stop making business in this country anymore more expensive than it already is. More regulation will increase costs, allowing many more cheaper competitors to undercut our own industries who don't have this regulation.

I disagree that we should do this if it is to the detriment of the immediate environment that we live in e.g. quality of air, crap in our rivers, crap in our seas etc.

We can't hope to compete on economies of scale in many things so we have to be smarter and focus on the quality of what we produce

nuclearsquash

1,329 posts

293 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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I'm starting the fight against the Man made global warming bollox, as provided by the BBC, here:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=248216&f=141&h=0

please help!

alfaman

6,416 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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nuclearsquash said:
I'm starting the fight against the Man made global warming bollox, as provided by the BBC, here:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=248216&f=141&h=0

please help!


Personally - I think that global warming IS caused by man, and that its a significant issue.

BUT the problem is that the main contributors are ( and will be ) China , India , Eastern bloc industries and probably the US. So if everyone in the UK went back to living in caves it wouldn't make any difference , and the other countries I've mentioned don't give a flying about the environment so will never agree to reduce CO2 emissions.


So there isn't a lot of point anyone here getting too wound up about it.

>> Edited by alfaman on Wednesday 1st March 19:01

jap-car

778 posts

281 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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johnph said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politic

Opinions?



Completely meaningless as with anything I've heard from Cameron. (and no I don't support Bliar)

Jaglover

46,845 posts

266 months

Wednesday 1st March 2006
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jap-car said:
johnph said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politic

Opinions?



Completely meaningless as with anything I've heard from Cameron. (and no I don't support Bliar)


True, (though he has said a few meaningful things on other subjects)

jap-car

778 posts

281 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Jaglover said:


though he has said a few meaningful things on other subjects



Please give me link. I really want to like Cameron but I'm finding it difficult All I see is a smooth presentation of nothing.

Jaglover

46,845 posts

266 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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jap-car said:
Jaglover said:


though he has said a few meaningful things on other subjects



Please give me link. I really want to like Cameron but I'm finding it difficult All I see is a smooth presentation of nothing.


I haven't got a link as such; but his policy of constructive opposition is a step forward. He is committed for example to backing the government's education bill because it represents a feeble step in the right direction. He could have been opportunistic and exploited Labour's divisions on this issue.