Starship troopers 2
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Now don't get me wrong the first one was not exactly going to win awards for taxing the brain matter but it was entertaining enough and had Denise Richards in it so taken as a bit of light hearted entertainment was fine.
The supposed sequel on ch5 now must have cost about £1.29 and is truely one of the worst films Ive seen.
The supposed sequel on ch5 now must have cost about £1.29 and is truely one of the worst films Ive seen.
225 said:
Now don't get me wrong the first one was not exactly going to win awards for taxing the brain matter but it was entertaining enough and had Denise Richards in it so taken as a bit of light hearted entertainment was fine.
The supposed sequel on ch5 now must have cost about £1.29 and is truely one of the worst films Ive seen.
Oh come on.
You can't see strings attached to the monsters and nobody i s a c t u a l l y r e a d i n g f r o m a b o a r d.
RobDickinson said:
1st has so many levels from the humorous, through sci-fi and action to the deeply political, far less than the book but its there.
Did we see the same movie, lol
I seen a movie where giant bugs that could shoot asteriods did battle with a buch of soldiers armed to the teeth.....
each to their own i guess but I hated it.
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stuart
RobDickinson said:
1st one is a classic from a classic book, for many many reasons. Not seen the second but I heard its dire.
1st has so many levels from the humorous, through sci-fi and action to the deeply political, far less than the book but its there.
Yep I love all Paul Veerhoeven's stuff (except possibly Showgirls)
Starship Troopers - ace
Total Recall - ace
Robocop - ace
They've all got that nice mix of light sattire, brilliant sci-fi and massive violence
Quite like the look of 'Beat of Bataan' too.
And the Hitcher, tho Verhoeven had excelent source material for this from Heinlein
I guess you missed a fair chunk of what the film(and book) is about, its easy not to see past the caricatured hollywood space violence to see some of the deeper meanings.
sstein said:
Did we see the same movie, lol
I seen a movie where giant bugs that could shoot asteriods did battle with a buch of soldiers armed to the teeth.....
each to their own i guess but I hated it.
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stuart
I guess you missed a fair chunk of what the film(and book) is about, its easy not to see past the caricatured hollywood space violence to see some of the deeper meanings.
IIRC
"Starship Troopers" (Robert Heinlein) and "The Forever War" (Joe Haldeman) were written circa the same time? They were both views on war - particulary Vietnam (especially so in the case of "The Forever War". Starship Troopers was panned somewhat at the time for "glorifying" war - although Heinlein always claimed that was not his intention. Both books, according to their authors, are comments on war and on the cultures that wage them.
In the original ST movie Verhoeven satirised "Earth" (American) culture far further than the book went - although the premise of a society ruled by the military or ex-military was the same.
One is supposed to read into this what you will, I think. I liked the first film. It did try to tell the same story as the book - mostly. The book I read as a lad and thoroughly enjoyed it.
I simply wouldn't consider watching any of the sequels/cartoons/series/other nonsense.
"Starship Troopers" (Robert Heinlein) and "The Forever War" (Joe Haldeman) were written circa the same time? They were both views on war - particulary Vietnam (especially so in the case of "The Forever War". Starship Troopers was panned somewhat at the time for "glorifying" war - although Heinlein always claimed that was not his intention. Both books, according to their authors, are comments on war and on the cultures that wage them.
In the original ST movie Verhoeven satirised "Earth" (American) culture far further than the book went - although the premise of a society ruled by the military or ex-military was the same.
One is supposed to read into this what you will, I think. I liked the first film. It did try to tell the same story as the book - mostly. The book I read as a lad and thoroughly enjoyed it.
I simply wouldn't consider watching any of the sequels/cartoons/series/other nonsense.
sstein said:
Starship Troopers - ace
Total Recall - ace
Robocop - ace
They've all got that nice mix of light sattire, brilliant sci-fi and massive violence
One guy was responsible for all of those..
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Stuart
Robocop needs a whole thread I think!! The sattire there is in the corporations taking over more and more, e.g. the police and running it with a corporate agenda. And who can forget:
...YOU NOW HAVE TWENTY SECONDS TO COMPLY. TEN.
<lab guys bashing on the controlls>
FIVE.
<sceaming, running>
dugga-dugga-dugga-dugga... (In the 'Criterion edition' BTW the robot stands over the guy for a clear 10 seconds pumping rounds into him from those huge autocannons before they manage to turn it off... its awesome)
The way he mixes stuff like that with the plush corporate veneer and those little 'advert' seguays is brilliant. Massively underrated film IMO.
>> Edited by aldi on Monday 6th March 09:05
I cringed and cringed and it still didn't get any better!
Infact I had to cover my face at points, it really was THAT bad, and I find the ending to The Postman cringerworthy and still didn't cover my face!
How could anyone make ST2 and think that they had done a good job. It's just literally unbelievable how anyone could make that film for general release! Maybe for GCSE Media studies, at a push!
Dave
Infact I had to cover my face at points, it really was THAT bad, and I find the ending to The Postman cringerworthy and still didn't cover my face!
How could anyone make ST2 and think that they had done a good job. It's just literally unbelievable how anyone could make that film for general release! Maybe for GCSE Media studies, at a push!
Dave
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