Anyone else watching Panorama?

[srebbe64]

I find myself getting angrier with this Government! To see Tony Blair electioneering, saying "no one should be forced to sell their home to be looked after in old age". Then, when he's in power, not only does he do a u-turn, he breaks the law! Totally outragous!

[turbobloke]

srebbe64 said:

I find myself getting angrier with this Government! To see Tony Blair electioneering, saying "no one should be forced to sell their home to be looked after in old age". Then, when he's in power, not only does he do a u-turn, he breaks the law! Totally outragous!

Yep. Social justice innit.

[police state]

Tony Bliar in 1997 (outlining his Election Mafiafesto)

“I believe in Britain. It is a great country with a great history. The British people are a great people. But I believe Britain can and must be better: better schools, better hospitals, better ways of tackling crime, of building a modern welfare state, of equipping ourselves for a new world economy.

I want to renew faith in politics through a government that will govern in the interest of the many, the broad majority of people who work hard, play by the rules, pay their dues and feel let down by a political system that gives the breaks to the few, to an elite at the top increasingly out of touch with the rest of us.

And I want, above all, to govern in a way that brings our country together, that unites our nation in facing the tough and dangerous challenges of the new economy and changed society in which we must live. I want a Britain which we all feel part of, in whose future we all have a stake, in which what I want for my own children I want for yours.”


I feel nauseous, quite, quite sick…

[matchless]

as I am getting no younger I now feel it's time to sell my hard worked for Home and go and live in a Council house at least that way the sponging Government wont get a penny piece out of me

[srebbe64]

Time after time after time! This Government is an absolute disgrace!

[sstein]

srebbe64 said:

I find myself getting angrier with this Government! To see Tony Blair electioneering, saying "no one should be forced to sell their home to be looked after in old age". Then, when he's in power, not only does he do a u-turn, he breaks the law! Totally outragous!

How about selling a home to pay inheritance tax as well.

Thats just a kick in the teeth as well, how dare your parents die.....

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Stuart

[focusonme]

srebbe64 said:

Time after time after time! This Government is an absolute disgrace!

Yup. The one before it was a disgrace, and the one after it will be a disgrace.

"Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." - George Bernard Shaw. Sums up Britain, really.

[turbobloke]

BLiar said:

I believe in Britain. It is a great country with a great history

But I'll look the other way when socialist slappers doing my bidding in the Grauniad try to rewrite bits of it involving Winston Churchill

BLiar said:

The British people are a great people.

But they're sufficiently gullible to accept stealth taxes up to their ears and believe in man-made climate change that can be stopped by paying yet more tax

BLiar said:

But I believe Britain can and must be better

But believe me I'm totally stuffed when it comes to turning such a belief into anything remotely tangible, and prefer to make the same policy announcements two or three times to make it look like we're doing something - since the public are generally gullible they'll believe our spin so we just tell them it's getting better and Hey Prescott, sorted

BLiar said:

I believe in better schools

Especially the ones several miles away across town from my gaff where I'll send my kids rather than the boggo comp down the road

BLiar said:

I believe in better hospitals

But my henchmen will smear any pensioner by alleging they're a racist if they dare to tell the truth about the shoddy filthy places ordinary people have to go to where if they're lucky they'll be seen the same day and, if admitted, will have the dignity of a mattresss in a corridor ... and don't mention dentists

BLiar said:

I believe in better ways of tackling crime

such as expanding the numbers of GATSOs and camvans, after all motorists are society's criminals and criminals are victims of society

BLiar said:

I believe in a modern welfare state

that hands taxpayers' earnings and savings to all and sundry as a means of penalising enterprise or thrift while rewarding chavdom

BLiar said:

I want to renew faith in politics

So I'll castrate parliament, spin so fast the public will find it hard to trust politicians for the foreseeable, and appoint Cabinet Ministers of such calibre they'll make acts of Tory sleaze look like a vicar's teaparty - get yer passports here, tobacco adverts only a mill to you if your name's Bernie, nanny visas anyone?

BLiar said:

the broad majority of people who work hard, play by the rules, pay their dues will get totally stuffed, kicked in the teeth, criminalised if they dare to protect themsleves or their property, vilified if they drive a car, and patronised with spin so transparent I laugh myself to sleep

BLiar said:

people feel let down by a political system that gives the breaks to the few, to an elite at the top increasingly out of touch

just ask Kinnock and Mandy, they'll tell you I'm in touch, although what that patient was hammering on about over my guidelines to doctors on treatment times actually causing problems beats me - maybe she's a racist like that loudmouthed pensioner

BLiar said:

And I want, above all, to govern in a way that brings our country together

on its knees

BLiar said:

I want to govern a country in which what I want for my own children I want for yours

especially MMR injections

The future's bright, the future's BLiar. In the EU or UN.

[Andy Mac]

I refer you to the V for Vendetta thread. It's not a film, it's a suggestion

[turbobloke]

Andy Mac said:

I refer you to the V for Vendetta thread. It's not a film, it's a suggestion

Steven Seagal said:

it's not a film, it's a fg ad-ven-ture

[agent006]

I assume there was more to the prog than the trailer suggested (care costs money, have none, don't need house when in care, sell house). To me it seemed that it would be another whingefest with the overuse of the word "force" in the wrong meaning. Hence not watching it.

[kentish]

Is it true that if your sick relation has no assets SS will bill next of kin for social care and home costs?

The prog didn't mention this aspect.

Regarding the panorama prog, it makes no sense to bill people who have paid taxes all their lives for care when they really need it.

[Yugguy]

The final straw for me with that Blair was when the old fella got chucked out of the conference and instead of standing up and taking responsibility as leader of the party he just said "hey, look, I wasn't even there."

grrr, how old is he? That's an excuse I'd expect a primary school kid to use, "it wasn't me miss."

>> Edited by Yugguy on Monday 6th March 12:26

[tvrbob]

I'm in this situation right now. Paying hundreds for carers because the Mother in law can't feed, dress or clean herself. She can't get in to bed without help. She is unable to safely administer her own medicine. Further more she gets cold very easily so she permanently has the gas central heating on full and has half a dozen electric fan heaters on all day long. The energy bill is quite interesting.

Even though we pay for the carers they often fail us. Not turning up at all or turning up at 6pm instead of 9pm to put her to bed.

I'm just pleased that we can afford it. I pity those that have to sell their hard earned estate to pay for this.

[Zod]

focusonme said:

srebbe64 said: Time after time after time! This Government is an absolute disgrace! Yup. The one before it was a disgrace, and the one after it will be a disgrace. "Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." - George Bernard Shaw. Sums up Britain, really.

Yes, quotes from GBS on democracy are to be taken as great wisdom. After all, he also had the wisdom to state that "Stalin... made good by doing things better and much more promptly than parliaments".

[anonymous-user]

Am in this situation right now, waiting for a care home placement for my dad and then it's goodbye to his house.

There is clearly no incentive to work and save these days as it will all be stolen from you while those who have taken the piss are amply rewarded.

I'm sorely tempted to plonk the old man in a wheelchair and take him on a day trip to France. While there will dye his hair black and stick on a fake beard, hook and eye patch then bring him back in with a dodgy passport naming him as Abu Scumza. He'll be guaranteed a new house of his own, all expenses paid plus plenty of pocket money for the rest of his life.

There is no justice.

[pistonsleeper]

I notice none of Tony's cronies have posted here!

[james_j]

Has anyone noticed how Bliar generally fails to use verbs when making his speeches?

Instead, he trots out wishes that most of us would feel. Some of the quotes in this thread are good examples: I believe and I want are used frequently. We can all believe and want until eternity, but that doesn't get anything done.

Unfortunately, however, it appeals to Labour supporters - and most non-Labour supporters know that they haven't thought things through and don't analyse too closely what Bliar says.