Di Anno or Dickinson?
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Joe Letaxi

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3,615 posts

257 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Just reprised my Iron Maiden Early Years DVD and wondered if what the consensus was on Maiden frontmen (I'm not including Blaze in this debate )?

I first bought a Maiden album in 1986 when I was at primary school and have loved them ever since, growing up with Bruce's vocals. I only bought 'Iron Maiden' and 'Killers' relatively late and hadn't really heard Di Anno, but to be honest those albums blew me away and 'Iron Maiden' is probably in my top three Maiden albums with 'Number of the Beast' and 'Piece of Mind'. Not as good a range, but Di Anno's gravelly voice really suits earlier Maiden better IMO, he does stuff like 'Iron Maiden' and 'Running Free' with more conviction. Would like to hear him do some of the later tracks like 'Be Quick or Be Dead'.

Oh, and Clive Burr or Nicko McBrain?

knight

5,235 posts

305 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Prefer Dickinson and McBrain, probably coz I've heard more stuff by them and am more familiar with their style, even though I have all the early Maiden albums

Karen182

4,214 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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knight said:
Prefer Dickinson and McBrain, probably coz I've heard more stuff by them and am more familiar with their style, even though I have all the early Maiden albums


Ditto

lord summerisle

8,169 posts

251 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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always thought Bruce just couldnt sing Paul's songs as well... trying to raise them too high (same with Bruce now singing Blaze's songs - listening to Bruce sing Lord of the Flies and Sign of the Cross - it just doesnt work for me)

IM & Killers are fantastic albums - but they needed that switch to bruce.

Clice/Nicko - i cant choose - both great drummers (and i think 'arris has always been lightly disappointed that Clive couldnt cope with the tour schedules and had to quit)

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Paul DiAnno for me, but then I was a fan from "Running Free" onwards.
Maiden were the best live band I ever saw 1980/1 at Bracknell Sports Centre......also saw Motorhead on their Bomber tour there too and they were equally brilliant.

Paul DiAnno is still touring and he played Farnborough last year, which I unfortunately missed as I had to collect my car from France.....other half went and he was fantastic apparently

www.pauldianno.com/

bga

8,134 posts

277 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Bruce/Nicko for me

trackcar

6,453 posts

252 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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on the singist front it's got to be dickinson for me, though phantom of the opera live is one of my all-time great rock tracks, dianno sings that with gusto.
of the burr/mcbrain duel I'd have to say that there's nothing between them, both stunning.

Maiden are the definitive "hard rock band with a tune". I love them.

anonymous-user

80 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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dickinson for me too. Saw them at Monsters (92 i think)

qube_TA

8,405 posts

271 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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POM line up was the best, the 1st two albums are fantastic, however I don't think they would have ever been as big a band if Bruce Bruce had not come along.

Still think that 'Live After Death' is one of the finest live metal albums ever recorded.

Matthew

trackcar

6,453 posts

252 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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qube_TA said:


Still think that 'Live After Death' is one of the finest live metal albums ever recorded.

Matthew



True

but i have it on cassette and the compression is too severe, i can't imagine it sounded like that in the auditoriums. Production is dirgy at best (reminds me of Whitesnake's pityful production on Saints and Sinners in that respect) .. but still a great listen and good x-section of maiden tracks over the years to that point.

I always remember it said that the dynamic range on many Maiden LPs was compressed to get the playing length up and the signal to noise ratio of LPs and cassettes isn't great .. so are the remastered CDs any better in respect of dynamic range?

celticpilgrim

1,965 posts

269 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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I think Bruce is is a 'better' singer in terms of range, technique, etc, but in terms of delivering material, DiAnno was better at singing the material from the 1st 2 albums - well he would be. he wrote them/they were written with his singing style in mind. Especially that the DiAnno era maiden always had a punk-type attitude which suited them.

Likewise, Bruce is the only one who could sing amy maiden stuff from 'Beast' onwards. Bearing in mind that many maiden songs are almost stories put to music, I think Bruce is the ideal bloke to put them across.

Now as for the drummmist debate, Clive Burr was a brilliant drummer - who else could carry off putting a swing beat into a heavy metal song - invaders from NOTB- but Nicko is also a very good drummer, and a certifyable lunatic to boot.

Which ever way you look at it DiAnno was the man for his time, as is bruce. And although it is somewhat arguable, I agree that Maiden would not be the band that they are today had Bruce not joined.

Let's not forget that the new album - A matter of Life and Death hits the shops in early September - can't wait (see www.ironmaiden.com for further details)

Vitesse39

731 posts

274 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Defo Dickinson - DiAnno is just a Wwwwoooaaaarrrrrr merchant in comparison.

McBrain / Burr - hmmm this is very much closer. I listen to live performances by both and I like them as much as each other but slightly differently. Burr has a more attack on site approach, where Nicko listens very much to what the guitars are doing and works with them aswell as locking in with Steve's bass as you would expect.
I think I would have to say Nicko though, because he has had quite an influence on my own playing and instrument choice (Sonor drums and that awsome 22" Bell Ride cymbal )

FrenchTVR

1,844 posts

293 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Definitely Dickinson for the vocals, DiAnno's style never did it for me.

I don't really have an opinion on the drumming, haven't a good enough ear for that sort of stuff, past the "yeah that sounds good" stage

celticpilgrim

1,965 posts

269 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Q: How should you count in an Iron Maiden song?

A: (coat on, heading for the door).....

1-2-3-4-5-6-6-6!!!

gbbird

5,197 posts

270 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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A tricky one this. Althopugh the St CD with Dianno is a classic and would not have been the same dickinson vocals over it, i guess my preferred choice would have to be Dickinson.

Also prefer McBrain on Drums

pwig

12,003 posts

296 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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The stuff on the first two albums is rather good tbh, some cracking songs, I feel Di-Anno was just right for them.


But I couldn't see Di-anno singing fear of the dark, etc.

FUGatso

563 posts

258 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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Agreed that the writing on the early album's suited Di Anno, the major stuff with Dickinson is best for showmanship and overall quality, but really liked the brief Blaze interlude, again the writing suited his voice.

fozzi

3,773 posts

266 months

Thursday 29th June 2006
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vetteheadracer said:
Paul DiAnno for me, but then I was a fan from "Running Free" onwards.
Maiden were the best live band I ever saw 1980/1 at Bracknell Sports Centre......also saw Motorhead on their Bomber tour there too and they were equally brilliant.

Paul DiAnno is still touring and he played Farnborough last year, which I unfortunately missed as I had to collect my car from France.....other half went and he was fantastic apparently

www.pauldianno.com/

Cheers for that link... have spent an hour or two downloading tracks and just purchased the limited edition 48 track album.