Prostate - dont be shy !!
Prostate - dont be shy !!
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superlightr

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12,920 posts

292 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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Hope Ted doesnt mind, but due to a recent detection in my Dad, and as most PH are male, please make sure you get your prostate checked out. There. said it.

Ask and insist on a PSA test (blood test)as well. My dads prostate at 60 felt fine (so im told) but he had a PSA test which was showed a positive result. Luckly They appear to have caught it in time and he is having treatment now. they beleive he had it from about 57 to 58

But as male medical issues are hardly published by the gov I would urge you to swallow your pride and have a check up and PSA test.

As I understand from the doc 60 is young for prostate cancer but apparantly most males will have prostate cancer to a larger or smaller extent by the time your 80 but you are likely to have other more urgent medical issues.

I have started regular checks from 33, and the PSA test is easy and more accuraate then the other thing.

difficult topic to talk about but hey they you go.





>>> Edited by superlightr on Wednesday 12th February 19:47

krispy

501 posts

313 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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Well said Sir!

My father has it as well, although he's a few years older than yours. Apparently experts predict 1 in 4 men in the UK to experience it to some degree by 2020. Not nice, and by the time symptoms manifest themselves it's often been there for quite a while.....

kevinday

13,832 posts

309 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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I did some consulting work for a company that specializes in radioactive seeds for treatment of prostate cancer. They said that you should start getting regular checks from somewhere between 40 and 50.

I guess I should get a check up soon because I am now 43.

richard sails

813 posts

288 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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My grandfather died in his forties from prostrate cancer. My father was also diagnosed with prostrate cancer a few years ago.

Find out if any relatives have had it, if so start your PSA checks in your thirties. If not start in your forties.

GET A PSA TEST.

polar_ben

1,413 posts

288 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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Good call.

My expeditions support The Orchid Cancer Appeal - www.orchid-cancer.org.uk - the UK's first male cancer charity.

There's some useful info/advice on the "cancer awareness" section of their site.

cotty

42,226 posts

313 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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im trying to eat my lunch. couldnt you post this at another time

mel

10,168 posts

304 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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Excuse my ignorance and blunt speaking this is in no way meant to be humourous just honest.

Whats involved or what is a PSA test ? Is it a straight forward blood test or does actually involve any looking or feeling up your arse, as I assume this is the preffered route to the prostate.

hut49

3,544 posts

291 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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PSA ia a simple blood test to assess the amount of a protein that is specifically released into the blood by the prostate. Low levels are normal, slightly higher levels may indicate a benign (non-cancerous) condition and moderate to higher levels may indicate a prostate cancer. Alone it does not give a definitive conclusion. It is used as a preliminary screen and usually combined with a Digital Rectal Exam (DRE) where the doc uses a gloved finger to feel the surface of the prostate for lumps and bumps. The final part of diagnosis would involve a biopsy of any suspicious areas.

Hutch

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JMGS4

8,931 posts

299 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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mel said: Excuse my ignorance and blunt speaking this is in no way meant to be humourous just honest.
Whats involved or what is a PSA test ? Is it a straight forward blood test or does actually involve any looking or feeling up your arse, as I assume this is the preffered route to the prostate.


Prostate Serum Antigens, it shows up in the blood test and a low rate is good BUT NOT 100%, (just had a bloody awful XMAS waiting for results after a biopsy...all OK thank God.)

Get one done (PSA test that is!)! I lost a very good friend who died sloooowly in serious pain because it wasn't caught on time.........

superlightr

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12,920 posts

292 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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The PSA is just a blood test. The docs for some reason like to have a feel, but I think you can just ask for a PSA test and that is more reliable anyway.

stupidly I asked for the PSA after the poke. Ugg. ( its not that bad honest)

make sure you you have the PSA either way.

superlightr

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12,920 posts

292 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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JMGS4 said:

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Prostate Serum Antigens, it shows up in the blood test and a low rate is good BUT NOT 100%, (just had a bloody awful XMAS waiting for results after a biopsy...all OK thank God.)



Hey JMGS4.... congratulaions. A big relief. turns your life upside down.
snap for my dad but unfortunalty positive. but very very early stage so hopefully promising outcome.

JMGS4

8,931 posts

299 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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superlightr said:


Hey JMGS4.... congratulaions. A big relief. turns your life upside down.
snap for my dad but unfortunalty positive. but very very early stage so hopefully promising outcome.

Thanks for the wishes it was a really shitty xmas, but a great relief when all was OKd. Talk about a second lease on life!!!
Hope your Dad gets it all caught in time, and the relatively minor (hopefully) op will cure all. As I said my mate took a very long and painful time to die just because the test wasn't done on time



>> Edited by JMGS4 on Wednesday 12th February 14:19

hut49

3,544 posts

291 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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It's actually Prostate Specific Antigen, but I'm not being picky

Hutch

JMGS4

8,931 posts

299 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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hut49 said: It's actually Prostate Specific Antigen, but I'm not being picky
Hutch

Thanks, wasn't too sure after the worry, thanks for the correction! No, not picky! appreciated! John

domster

8,431 posts

299 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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hut49 said: PSA ia a simple blood test to assess the amount of a protein that is specifically released into the blood by the prostate. It is used as a preliminary screen and usually combined with a Digital Rectal Exam (DRE) where the doc uses a gloved finger to feel the surface of the prostate for lumps and bumps.



Phew, thought Digital Rectal Exam involved a computer for a second. Mind boggled.

MoJocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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superlightr said:

JMGS4 said:

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Hey JMGS4.... congratulaions. A big relief. turns your life upside down.
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glad to hear you got the all clear. Had a scare myself a couple of years ago-yes it sure makes you look at things in a different light.MoJo.

johnelliott

293 posts

289 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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Having read this I rang my local surgery saying could I come in and have a PSA test, and the receptionist said sure thing ( or words to that effect, like it happens all the time)and booked me in.
Feeling a bit strange about it now, as I have often wondered whether, if it was to turn out that I had cancer, would I really want to know?

John

superlightr

Original Poster:

12,920 posts

292 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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if your a PH then your a realist. Cars break down, sh#t happens, better to have the info and make your own decisions.

Do all you can within your power and you wont regret anything that happens to you. good luck.

PatHeald

8,058 posts

285 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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I lost my dad to intestinal cancer on 17.08.01.

It was only diagnosed two weeks before he died.

He was 62 and was still working as a GP when he was admitted to hospital.

Since then I have had a flexible sigmoidoscopy (32 inch long camera up the chuff) and a barium enema (2 pints of porridge up the chuff, administered by a very nice female radiographer).

I was given the all clear and celebrated by picking up my Esprit from Paul Matty on the anniversary of his death.

If he had been diagnosed just a few weeks earlier, he would have had a pretty good chance of getting through.

My advice is to swap the indignity of the procedure for the peace of mind of a clear result. Even if the result is not clear, the test might just have saved your life.

Pat.

DRG

254 posts

285 months

Wednesday 12th February 2003
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A DRE (digital rectal examination) or PR (examination per rectum) is a good method for checking the general health of the rectum and prostate as well as for detecting Carcinoma of the prostate. The examination takes less than a minute and is uncomfortable rather than painful.

Sigmoidoscopy (camera view of the colon) is a good screening tool for Colon Ca. It is indicated in relatives of people with known colon Ca. or in those >50 who have large bowel polyps.

and while we are down there...

Make sure you check your testicles regularly.

Testicular Ca. is the commonest malignancy in young men (25-34) but is still quite rare.

For a 'how to' see;

http://tcrc.acor.org/tcexam.html

Happy examining

>> Edited by DRG on Wednesday 12th February 21:22