Metropolitan Police to be fined - De Menenenenenzes shooting

[Boomshanker]

Apparently the MET could face an unlimited fine in relation to this. Someone want to tell me what the hell the point of that is?

[Vesuvius 996]

Huge legal aid fees (paid by us) for some trouble making human rights lawyers.

A posh hotel at our expense for the whole of his extended family for a year.


Next.

[Racefan_uk]

To pay the family of an innocent man?

Just a thought.

[baSkey]

so that we can all feel warm inside that they got told off for shooting an illegal. whilst at the same time feeling scared that they have less money to be able to fund doing a better job of finding the right illegals to shoot.

it's all about looking like doing something rather than doing something.

[MK4 Slowride]

De Menzez was an illegal imigrant & shouldn't have been here in the first place. Had he applied for asylum properly he'd of had nothing to fear & wouldn't have ran.

[Spokey]

Boomshanker said:

Apparently the MET could face an unlimited fine in relation to this. Someone want to tell me what the hell the point of that is?

A new tax by Gordon Brown.

[Einion Yrth]

MK4 Slowride said:

De Menzez was an illegal imigrant & shouldn't have been here in the first place. Had he applied for asylum properly he'd of had nothing to fear & wouldn't have ran.

Try and keep up with the facts eh? He didn't run, nor was he wearing a heavy coat.

[10 Pence Short]

Queue 500 pages...

If I remember correctly, the penalty for running from the police isn't being shot numerous times in the head. It was a total whitewash that no-one was criminally prosecuted for his murder and this HSE effort is nothing more than a token gesture.

[SpydieNut]

this is all ed up.

putting the public at risk by opening fire - on someone they suspected (not getting into this aspect of it) of being a terrorist bomber.

• had* he been a terrorist bomber and the police didn't shoot him dead and he therefore did set his bomb off, surely that would have put the public at greater risk . and the same wkers would be the first to complain the police didn't do enough to protect the public

[Raify]

MK4 Slowride said:

De Menzez was an illegal imigrant & shouldn't have been here in the first place.

You are CupraR and I claim my £5

MK4 Slowride said:

Had he applied for asylum properly he'd of had nothing to fear & wouldn't have ran.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a rant eh?

[tinman0]

Raify said:

MK4 Slowride said:

De Menzez was an illegal imigrant & shouldn't have been here in the first place.

You are CupraR and I claim my £5

fraid i tend to think the same way. he was an overstayer.

had he left when he was meant to, then he would of been alive today.

the failure isn't that the police executed him, but that the immigration dept hadn't thrown him out of the country in the first place.

[edx]

MK4 Slowride said:

De Menzez was an illegal imigrant & shouldn't have been here in the first place. Had he applied for asylum properly he'd of had nothing to fear & wouldn't have ran.

I've read some stuff on PH, but this one is pretty offensive in its naivety!

[Einion Yrth]

tinman0 said:

fraid i tend to think the same way. he was an overstayer.

and when exactly was the legislation to make that a capital offence passed?

[voyds9]

Racefan_uk said:

To pay the family of an innocent man?

Just a thought.

Only innocent of terrorism, guilty of being here illegally.

[Racefan_uk]

voyds9 said:

Racefan_uk said:

To pay the family of an innocent man?

Just a thought.

Only innocent of terrorism, guilty of being here illegally.

And yet, shot in the name of being a suspected terrorist, which makes him innocent of the crime he was killed for.

[Raify]

tinman0 said:

Raify said:

MK4 Slowride said:

De Menzez was an illegal imigrant & shouldn't have been here in the first place.

You are CupraR and I claim my £5

fraid i tend to think the same way. he was an overstayer.

had he left when he was meant to, then he would of been alive today.

the failure isn't that the police executed him, but that the immigration dept hadn't thrown him out of the country in the first place.

Totally irrelevant. This is a Chebacca argument.

So what if he was illegal? Does that make it ok that he was wrongly identified as a bomber, allowed onto 2 public transport sites and then shot? Does that make the mis-information leaked to the press after the shooting acceptable?

If he'd been an unemployed "overstayer" then he'd be alive. (He was on his was to a job remember)

If he'd decided to go on holiday to Bangor he'd be alive today.

If he's been one of those white Brazilians, you know like Kaka, he'd be alive today.

[anonymous-user]

Boomshanker said:

Apparently the MET could face an unlimited fine in relation to this. Someone want to tell me what the hell the point of that is?

Don't you feel the police should be accountable for their mistakes? This is the U.K. not China or Burma.

[edx]

Quinny said:

The police acted like a force from a police state, such as the ones we're always going on about.
You know the countries that don't give a shit about human rights.

The fact that he was an illegal immigrant doesn't change that.

[Boomshanker]

I'm not getting into the argument of why he ws shot etc etc. Just what is the point of an unlimited fine the police? How is that going to make anything better? So they pay a massive fine and have a reduced budget, great!

[10 Pence Short]

Boomshanker said:

I'm not getting into the argument of why he ws shot etc etc. Just what is the point of an unlimited fine the police? How is that going to make anything better? So they pay a massive fine and have a reduced budget, great!

Conversly if nothing was done to them, people would be up in arms "it's one rule for us and one rule for them"...