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Parrot of Doom

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23,075 posts

258 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1022...

article said:
A LOTTERY scratchcard has been withdrawn from sale by Camelot - because players couldn't understand it.

The Cool Cash game - launched on Monday - was taken out of shops yesterday after some players failed to grasp whether or not they had won.

To qualify for a prize, users had to scratch away a window to reveal a temperature lower than the figure displayed on each card. As the game had a winter theme, the temperature was usually below freezing.

But the concept of comparing negative numbers proved too difficult for some Camelot received dozens of complaints on the first day from players who could not understand how, for example, -5 is higher than -6.

Tina Farrell, from Levenshulme, called Camelot after failing to win with several cards.

The 23-year-old, who said she had left school without a maths GCSE, said: "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't.

"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.

"I think Camelot are giving people the wrong impression - the card doesn't say to look for a colder or warmer temperature, it says to look for a higher or lower number. Six is a lower number than 8. Imagine how many people have been misled."

A Camelot spokeswoman said the game was withdrawn after reports that some players had not understood the concept.

She said: "The instructions for playing the Cool Cash scratchcard are clear - and are printed on each individual card and in the game procedures available at each retailer. However, because of the potential for player confusion we have decided to withdraw the game."

More than 15m adults in Britain have poor numeracy - the equivalent of a G or below at GCSE maths

Almost three times as many UK adults (15.1m) have poor numeracy - the equivalent of a G or below at GCSE maths - than with poor literacy skills, according to the government's Skills for Life survey.

Peter Hall, of the Association of Teachers of Mathematics, said: "The concept of minus numbers is something we would cover with 11 or 12 year olds, and we would expect them to have come across it before.

"The concept of smaller numbers is something that some people do seem to struggle with. Seven is clearly smaller than eight, so they focus on that and don't really see the minus sign. There is also a subtle difference in language between smaller - or lower - and colder. The number zero feels lower.

"There have always been some people who find numbers and basic mathematics difficult. Maybe in the past it was less noticeable because people could find jobs they could excel in without having qualifications in maths."
Edited by Parrot of Doom on Monday 5th November 17:35

ewenm

28,506 posts

269 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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rolleyes

Do you reckon they understand what the D and C on their bank statements mean?

cj_eds

1,567 posts

245 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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said:
"I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it.
clap


Edited by cj_eds on Monday 5th November 17:39

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

279 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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rofl....:sigh:

wasted years

4,330 posts

233 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Remember - these are the same people you have on juries!

BMWBen

4,906 posts

225 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Wow! Just.... wow!

LeTim

13,014 posts

222 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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wasted years said:
Remember - these are the same people you have on juries!
Having done jury service I can confirm this, bloody scary.

What was more scary was that the BiBs giving evidence weren't much better.

shadowninja

79,446 posts

306 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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rofl That's all I can do.

baptistsan

1,907 posts

234 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Christ I have classes of 12 year olds who understand negative numbers.

Amazes me that Camelot are withdrawing it, stop pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Sciroccology

29,908 posts

254 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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I can only summon up three words in response to this.

They start with F, F and S.

xiphias

5,889 posts

251 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Went to see my Doctor today, was quite suprised by his inability to spell sensitive and to even get some basic grammar right.

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

257 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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These peoples' children are often this country's future.

Still, it's not new. Back in 1979 we had a 'european afternoon' at Junior school and one girl turned up dressed as a chinese woman. That girl later had a drug habit that killed her, leaving children behind.

Then back in the mid 80s my best mate's kid sister had to do a project on Australia in Junior school, and their mum pulled a European Atlas off the shelf for her. This girl is now a psychiatric nurse in the NHS.

Sometimes the offspring of these people make good despite the odds smile .

Gylen

10,202 posts

241 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Tina sounds like a real catch - Perhaps potential suitors have shown her their bank statement to prove how 'rich' they are with a whoppping great -£28,345.45 in their account thus leading to her confusion?

ewenm

28,506 posts

269 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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baptistsan said:
Christ I have classes of 12 year olds who understand negative numbers.

Amazes me that Camelot are withdrawing it, stop pandering to the lowest common denominator.
Err... the LCD are Camelot's primary customers... a tax on hope wink

Tunku

7,703 posts

252 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Chin dropping boggle.

Biker's Nemesis

41,120 posts

232 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Has to be a wind up, I don't believe anyone can be that daft.

rofl

justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

266 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Parrot of Doom said:
article said:
More than 15m adults in Britain have poor numeracy - the equivalent of a G or below at GCSE maths
Edited by Parrot of Doom on Monday 5th November 17:35
15M out of 60M? That's like a third or a half of the country or something.

Marf

22,907 posts

265 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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LeTim said:
wasted years said:
Remember - these are the same people you have on juries!
Having done jury service I can confirm this, bloody scary.

What was more scary was that the BiBs giving evidence weren't much better.
Can you leave a Jury based on the fact you do not believe your "peers" have a sufficient grasp of, well, everything?

dilbert

7,741 posts

255 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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Look at it another way.....

That's one heck of a sales force!
hehe

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 5th November 2007
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rofl