Don't do drugs kids...it ruins lives..

[normalbloke]

Is that not the message that should be getting across by now?

Or are the pc brigade going to keep the real reasons sheltered from the wee darlings?

[OwenK]

Kids are battered to within an inch of their lives by "Drugs are evil" messages these days.

If they're doing drugs, it's not out of ignorance of the potential hazards, that's for sure.

Edited by OwenK on Monday 14th April 19:21

[Jasandjules]

I don't think many people think that Drugs are safe and fine and all will be well if you do a line of coke a night etc.... But they do them anyways - fair enough, as long as they don't harm other people... If they want to kill themselves, that is up to them.

[Plotloss]

Oh, I'm sorry.

I appear to have stumbled into the Daily Mail online discussion area by mistake.

[Dare2Fail]

Surely saying 'Drugs kill' is like saying 'Speed kills'? It's a broadbrush, bullst statement that does more harm than good. Inappropriate drug use will kill. I would love them to educate people to a point where they can make their own mind up rather than beating them over the head with cliched catch phrases that don't work.

[GetCarter]

Plotloss said:

Oh, I'm sorry.

I appear to have stumbled into the Daily Mail online discussion area by mistake.

Indeed. And hey... nobody on here has kids that take drugs.

...and if they do, they will be naturally culled (we are informed)

Edited by GetCarter on Monday 14th April 19:35

[Sciroccology]

Dare2Fail said:

Surely saying 'Drugs kill' is like saying 'Speed kills'? It's a broadbrush, bullst statement that does more harm than good. Inappropriate drug use will kill. I would love them to educate people to a point where they can make their own mind up rather than beating them over the head with cliched catch phrases that don't work.

Almost word-for-word what I was going too say.

[Fittster]

Famous Drug Users

Jonathan Aitken
Burroughs, William
Dave Cameron
Winston Churchill
Grover Cleveland
Charles Dickens
Anthony Eden
Sigmund Freud
Bill Gates
Al Gore
William Glastone
Steve Jobs
King George V
Prince Harry
Sartre, Jean-Paul

And 8 cabinet minsters including including the Home Secretary and the Chancellor Alistair Darling.

How can you can say don't do drugs because they are potentially dangerous when alcohol and tobacco are legal?

A simplistic message won't work.

Edited by Fittster on Monday 14th April 19:38

[CoopR]

Because it's lie? Like all complicated things (Speeding? Climate Change?), if you try to turn it into a 1 line catch phrase and repeatedly beat people around the head with it then it backfires.

Random Adult: "Drugs are bad kids, m'kay"
Kid 1: "Why?"
RA: "They just are, they ruin lives"
Kid 1: "But my brother does coke every weekend and earns 100k in the city"
Kid 2: "Yea, my dad said he smoked pot in the 60's and he's retired at 50"

Congrats. You've just ruined any hope of drug education in a whole generation.

[Plotloss]

CoopR said:

Congrats. You've just ruined any hope of drug education in a whole generation.

This is the main thing that people cant quite seem to grasp.

People dont do drugs through lack of knowledge or education, they do them because they're fun.

Which I appreciate may come as a bit of a shock to those who believe that if they are in the same room as a pot smoker they'll lose their house by association but there it is.

Still, prohibition works well so lets have a bit more prohibition.

[sleep envy]

Plotloss said:

People dont do drugs through lack of knowledge or education, they do them because they're fun.

Fun?

I just mainline and speedball to fit in

[Plotloss]

sleep envy said:

Plotloss said:

People dont do drugs through lack of knowledge or education, they do them because they're fun.

Fun?

I just mainline and speedball to fit in

North London for you...




Badaladadadadaaaaaaaaaaaa

[CoopR]

Oh I grasp that perfectly, believe me

But people learn by doing, how many times have you put a hot bowl down on the table and told people it's hot only for someone to reach out and touch is a second later?

Churning out scary messages backfire when kids actually reach out and touch it and realise it's not as dangerous as they've been told. Then of course that spreads doubt on more moderate messages, are they lies too? So while they do know the risks theya re easily dismissed.

So yes, that sort of message does ruin "proper" drug education.

Personally I agree with legalisation, take all the crap out of the system and get it regulated properly like booze. Biotech companies can already take all the good bits out of things like cannabis and heroin for medicine, the opposite is also true.

[Frik]

mickken said:

If the stupid fkers still do drugs after all the awareness that is around these days.......they will be naturally culled, and the country will be better for it.

I know I shouldn't bite - this is an intriguing form of attention seeking.

Do you actually read things before you post them?

Oh, and where can I get hold of some of this "awareness". Sounds like fun.

[esselte]

mickken said:

No it doesn't, crack on.....

Saying that is as trite as the OPs post title...they obviously do ruin some lives......

[Plotloss]

Frik said:

Oh, and where can I get hold of some of this "awareness". Sounds like fun.

Simply do 31 in a 30.

In certain constabularies.

Its the path to enlightenment.

Apparently.

[normalbloke]

This is great!

[thunderbirds]

When you see the results drugs at the morgue..you dont wonder anymore..oh so young.

[paoloh]

Do you know the biggest problem with drugs??

They work and they are fun!

Drugs are the same as many other things in life, using them is not a major issue, abusing them is.

[Marf]

Bill Hicks said:

No, I don't do drugs anymore, either. But I'll tell you something about drugs. I used to do drugs, but I'll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it's not a very popular idea, you don't hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my ass off, and went about my day.