What kicks the CSA into action?

[clonmult]

Or whatever the department is nowadays?

The girlfriend and I are having a baby, due in the next month, and we've been discussing finances. We don't live together, but can see me moving in with her in time.

As we don't live together its been suggested that the CSA may somehow get involved? They've never got involved with respect to her ex and the father of her child (who only pays £100 per month), nor have they bothered doing anything in the case of my ex wife and her two children with her first ex husband (who has never paid a penny).

[Justayellowbadge]

Thought they didn't exist any more?

[clonmult]

Justayellowbadge said:

Thought they didn't exist any more?

I thought there was still some kind of organisation in place to gather maintenance and harrass fathers?

[killingjoker]

If your partner and her ex have an agreement going and he is paying then the CSA have no reason to get involved. The only way they will is if your partner is not happy with the amount, or he stops paying.

Yes they still exist and i would suggest for all parties concerned you dont have anything to do with them.

Edited by killingjoker on Thursday 12th June 15:05

Edited by killingjoker on Thursday 12th June 15:05

[clonmult]

killingjoker said:

If your partner and her ex have an agreement going and he is paying then the CSA have no reason to get involved. The only way they will is if your partner is not happy with the amount, or he stops paying.

Yes they still exist and i would suggest for all parties concerned you do dont have anything to do with them.

Edited by killingjoker on Thursday 12th June 15:05

She does have an "agreement" with her ex, but its a truly pathetic amount compared to what he (probably) earns, he seems loathe to do anything for his daughter. Total fktard.

My ex wife and I came to an agreement on my maintance payments, and thankfully haven't had the CSA involved.

[Herman Toothrot]

clonmult said:

Justayellowbadge said:

Thought they didn't exist any more?

I thought there was still some kind of organisation in place to gather maintenance and harrass fathers?

yes they harrash me to the tune of 15% a month, never even seen the child.

[Zen.]

clonmult said:

As we don't live together its been suggested that the CSA may somehow get involved?

If she is in receipt of income support or any other benefit, then yes they will get invlolved. The only other way for them to be involved is if she has requested them to be.

Edited by Zen. on Thursday 12th June 15:10

[clonmult]

Herman Toothrot said:

clonmult said:

Justayellowbadge said:

Thought they didn't exist any more?

I thought there was still some kind of organisation in place to gather maintenance and harrass fathers?

yes they harrash me to the tune of 15% a month, never even seen the child.

I'd say OUCH, but 15% is nothing - I'm effectively paying 30%, as I'm paying maintenance and half the mortgage, but at least the latter is effectively an investment.

[clonmult]

anonymous said:

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Never!

[littlegreenfairy]

If you really don't want to get them involved then perhaps you could just not put your name down on the birth certificate.

Drastic measures, but if there is a likely hood they could come knocking perhaps its worth considering.

[Zen.]

littlegreenfairy said:

If you really don't want to get them involved then perhaps you could just not put your name down on the birth certificate.

Drastic measures, but if there is a likely hood they could come knocking perhaps its worth considering.

Will make no odds, a blood test will be requested if paternity is disputed, I would think this would also diminish the fathers rights in the future.

[killingjoker]

clonmult said:

killingjoker said:

If your partner and her ex have an agreement going and he is paying then the CSA have no reason to get involved. The only way they will is if your partner is not happy with the amount, or he stops paying.

Yes they still exist and i would suggest for all parties concerned you do dont have anything to do with them.

Edited by killingjoker on Thursday 12th June 15:05

She does have an "agreement" with her ex, but its a truly pathetic amount compared to what he (probably) earns, he seems loathe to do anything for his daughter. Total fktard.

My ex wife and I came to an agreement on my maintance payments, and thankfully haven't had the CSA involved.

If she is not happy and he wont pay more then the CSA will get it. However, they will make life difficult for all parties involved. Good that you have an agreement in place with your ex wife but for gods sake dont ever piss her off else she can phone them and make your life hell even if you have always paid. (Never missed a payment ever but psycho ex called them anyway, women, you gotta love em eh?)

By the way the 15% of earnings figure is incorrect its more like 22%.

Hope that helps.

[clonmult]

anonymous said:

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Not taking it seriously. Her first husband has never paid a penny. Ever. he hasn't even seen his son.

[clonmult]

Zen. said:

clonmult said:

As we don't live together its been suggested that the CSA may somehow get involved?

If she is in receipt of income support or any other benefit, then yes they will get invlolved. The only other way for them to be involved is if she has requested them to be.

Edited by Zen. on Thursday 12th June 15:10

She does work part time, and is on at least some benefits.

[clonmult]

killingjoker said:

clonmult said:

killingjoker said:

If your partner and her ex have an agreement going and he is paying then the CSA have no reason to get involved. The only way they will is if your partner is not happy with the amount, or he stops paying.

Yes they still exist and i would suggest for all parties concerned you do dont have anything to do with them.

Edited by killingjoker on Thursday 12th June 15:05

She does have an "agreement" with her ex, but its a truly pathetic amount compared to what he (probably) earns, he seems loathe to do anything for his daughter. Total fktard.

My ex wife and I came to an agreement on my maintance payments, and thankfully haven't had the CSA involved.

If she is not happy and he wont pay more then the CSA will get it. However, they will make life difficult for all parties involved. Good that you have an agreement in place with your ex wife but for gods sake dont ever piss her off else she can phone them and make your life hell even if you have always paid. (Never missed a payment ever but psycho ex called them anyway, women, you gotta love em eh?)

By the way the 15% of earnings figure is incorrect its more like 22%.

Hope that helps.

Sure its 22%? Figure is supposed to be 15% for one child, 20% if two are involved. That got the nod from our idiotic solicitors as well as the mediation bods.

[Zen.]

clonmult said:

She does work part time, and is on at least some benefits.

Then, the CSA will be involved, probably better for you to pay her enough maintenance to put her over the level so she can't claim.

I think the only exception is if she is only in receipt of working tax credit.

[Herman Toothrot]

killingjoker said:

clonmult said:

killingjoker said:

If your partner and her ex have an agreement going and he is paying then the CSA have no reason to get involved. The only way they will is if your partner is not happy with the amount, or he stops paying.

Yes they still exist and i would suggest for all parties concerned you do dont have anything to do with them.

Edited by killingjoker on Thursday 12th June 15:05

She does have an "agreement" with her ex, but its a truly pathetic amount compared to what he (probably) earns, he seems loathe to do anything for his daughter. Total fktard.

My ex wife and I came to an agreement on my maintance payments, and thankfully haven't had the CSA involved.

If she is not happy and he wont pay more then the CSA will get it. However, they will make life difficult for all parties involved. Good that you have an agreement in place with your ex wife but for gods sake dont ever piss her off else she can phone them and make your life hell even if you have always paid. (Never missed a payment ever but psycho ex called them anyway, women, you gotta love em eh?)

By the way the 15% of earnings figure is incorrect its more like 22%.

Hope that helps.

Its more like 21/22% if they decided to back date at all,, i.e. you pay from the moment they contact you, however if they arse about for a year before billing you the payment they have calculated you've "missed" they take from you once payment starts at 6% on top of the 15%, so depending on the amount you "owe" you could be paying 21% for a while (16 months ish).

Edited by Herman Toothrot on Thursday 12th June 15:38

[clonmult]

Zen. said:

clonmult said:

She does work part time, and is on at least some benefits.

Then, the CSA will be involved, probably better for you to pay her enough maintenance to put her over the level so she can't claim.

I think the only exception is if she is only in receipt of working tax credit.

Its bleedin' confusing. In experience of others, they hardly get involved, but according to the press they hound you into the ground.

She was discussing it with some of the other mothers at school, and a few suggested one part of the paperwork that can be filled in a manner that would stop the CSA getting involved.

And not being on the birth certificate isn't an option - the lad is my child, wouldn't have it any other way.

[Zen.]

clonmult said:

A few suggested one part of the paperwork that can be filled in a manner that would stop the CSA getting involved.

They won't get involved if doing so will put the child at risk.

I do wonder why Mothers are wanting to avoid getting the CSA involved, surely maintenance is preferable to benefit, I can only assume there is some sort of benefit fraud going on.

[Zen.]

I do find it sad that you are having a child with someone, which entails a huge amount of commitment and yet you are not committing to each other or the family unit by living together.

You can tell me to mind my own business now