Insurance renewals - a warning
Insurance renewals - a warning
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Skyrat

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1,185 posts

221 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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A mate of mine is insured with AA motor insurance, has been for years. Each year they sent him his renewal letter with a note on it that the policy will be renewed at the cost quoted unless he tells them otherwise. Simple enough.

This year he gets a letter from them as normal, checks the cost, and files it away. This was in January. He tried to tax his car the other day online and it flags up as "no insurance". So he calls up AA to sort it out and they tell him his insurance lapsed in January and wasn't renewed. This year, what they'd done was send him a quote with a code to punch into their automated system if he wanted to renew. So he's been driving around with no insurance since January. And yeah, he feels like a tw4t, and feels very lucky too.

I know what folk will say, and I said the same thing, he should've RTFL. But seeing how easy it happened I thought I'd fire up a quick post.

illmonkey

19,840 posts

229 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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he should've RTFL

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

278 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Thanks for the warning. Mine has been auto renewing for the last few years, and yes I'd probably assume it still was.

AA shoudlnt have been allowed to do that....

Iain328

15,116 posts

237 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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ANPRS is working well then rolleyesrolleyes

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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AA are abysmal, I had a row with them down the phone one year for their appauling customer service.

They wanted to charge me 25% more on my renewal because I was involved in an accident which:

Involved my TVR (which I wasn't insured with the AA for, I was insured with the AA for the Supra).
It wasn't my fault (someone hit me).
I made the claim directly through the third parties insurance.
I didn't lose any no-claims because of it on either policy.

I didn't inform the AA (I had informed the TVR insurance co.) and got my renewal through, I informed them on renewing via the web. The web wouldn't let me renew so I phoned up and advised them on the phone. They renewed my policy at the same price but removed my protected NCD without telling me. I called back and told them and they said it had been removed because of the accident!!! Bearing in mind this was with another car, and nothing to do with this policy.

After calling various times, having them say it was being recalculated, getting through to two offices one in Newcastle and one in Cardiff, who kept giving conflicting information. One office said it was added, another said it wasn't, I finally got through to a manager who said.

Well you wouldn't have been covered for the last 6 months. wtf?? because I hadn't informed them of the accident.
They said the renewal they had sent was wrong as I hadn't reported the accident so instead of the renewal amount sent £520, (and the online quote of £480), they now wanted to charge near £600!!

They said "this is how insurance works" (I told them it was fcensoredg bcensoreds), bearing in mind I never lose my temper. I asked if they had listened to my call, and at any point did they say "I am removing your NCB Protection," Manager on phone says no we didn't say that we were removing it "but you didn't ask for it to stay there."

I cancelled my policy and went elsewhere and got a slightly cheaper quote, declaring the accident.

This was about 3 years ago. Wouldn't touch them ever again.

King Herald

23,501 posts

247 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Skyrat said:
A mate of mine is insured with AA motor insurance, has been for years. Each year they sent him his renewal letter with a note on it that the policy will be renewed at the cost quoted unless he tells them otherwise. Simple enough.

This year he gets a letter from them as normal, checks the cost, and files it away. This was in January. He tried to tax his car the other day online and it flags up as "no insurance". So he calls up AA to sort it out and they tell him his insurance lapsed in January and wasn't renewed. This year, what they'd done was send him a quote with a code to punch into their automated system if he wanted to renew. So he's been driving around with no insurance since January. And yeah, he feels like a tw4t, and feels very lucky too.

I know what folk will say, and I said the same thing, he should've RTFL. But seeing how easy it happened I thought I'd fire up a quick post.
I guess not receiving the cover note, or seeing the money go out of the bank was an easy oversight.

Easy to do with the quantity of paperwork that falls through our door every day.

We signed up for paperless banking, to save a bank statement once a month, save the planet, then get three glossy, heavy print letters a week from the same fvckeyed bank trying to lend us money!!!!!!!rage


Simpo Two

93,068 posts

296 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Elephant are good. The send me a renewal quote and say that if I do nothing they'll renew it on X date and take the premium then. Hence I can never be uninsured, and if I want to shop around, I have some time to do so.

mel

10,168 posts

306 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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Iain328 said:
ANPRS is working well then rolleyesrolleyes
Well it got me after a similar situation, luckily the magistrates could see what had happened and gave me an absolute discharge.

Skyrat

Original Poster:

1,185 posts

221 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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King Herald said:
Skyrat said:
A mate of mine is insured with AA motor insurance, has been for years. Each year they sent him his renewal letter with a note on it that the policy will be renewed at the cost quoted unless he tells them otherwise. Simple enough.

This year he gets a letter from them as normal, checks the cost, and files it away. This was in January. He tried to tax his car the other day online and it flags up as "no insurance". So he calls up AA to sort it out and they tell him his insurance lapsed in January and wasn't renewed. This year, what they'd done was send him a quote with a code to punch into their automated system if he wanted to renew. So he's been driving around with no insurance since January. And yeah, he feels like a tw4t, and feels very lucky too.

I know what folk will say, and I said the same thing, he should've RTFL. But seeing how easy it happened I thought I'd fire up a quick post.
I guess not receiving the cover note, or seeing the money go out of the bank was an easy oversight.
Aye. What can I say? He's a lot on his mind hehe Can't say I'd have made that mistake but I just thought the abrupt change of policy by AA might catch a few folk out


plasticpig

12,932 posts

256 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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This is not the AA's fault. As I understand it the FSA have changed the regulations so auto renewal is not allowed .

Chrisgr31

14,297 posts

286 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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plasticpig said:
This is not the AA's fault. As I understand it the FSA have changed the regulations so auto renewal is not allowed .
Well that will catch out thousands of people then. I know everyone on here is perfect, but I rarely check my bank statement, always need to do a majpr search for insurance documentation etc,and can understad why people are caught out if there is no auto-renewal.

Now the FSA is a government organisation? The government is short of money........ ah taht explains it. More fines on the way!

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,559 posts

243 months

Wednesday 9th July 2008
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That's interesting - I had an email from Swiftcover last week saying it would auto-renew unless I asked them not to.

Ross_

526 posts

268 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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plasticpig said:
This is not the AA's fault. As I understand it the FSA have changed the regulations so auto renewal is not allowed .
Not true mate its nothing to do with the FSA's guidelines, its each companys own policy whether they do assumptive renewals or not , some do and some dont.

R

m4tthew

9,045 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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King Herald said:
Skyrat said:
A mate of mine is insured with AA motor insurance, has been for years. Each year they sent him his renewal letter with a note on it that the policy will be renewed at the cost quoted unless he tells them otherwise. Simple enough.

This year he gets a letter from them as normal, checks the cost, and files it away. This was in January. He tried to tax his car the other day online and it flags up as "no insurance". So he calls up AA to sort it out and they tell him his insurance lapsed in January and wasn't renewed. This year, what they'd done was send him a quote with a code to punch into their automated system if he wanted to renew. So he's been driving around with no insurance since January. And yeah, he feels like a tw4t, and feels very lucky too.

I know what folk will say, and I said the same thing, he should've RTFL. But seeing how easy it happened I thought I'd fire up a quick post.
We signed up for paperless banking, to save a bank statement once a month, save the planet, then get three glossy, heavy print letters a week from the same fvckeyed bank trying to lend us money!!!!!!!rage
Not a bank which name is also the same as a chain of pharmacies is it? I get exactly the same thing, paperless billing, yet endless offers of loans, credit cards etc...

plasticpig

12,932 posts

256 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Ross_ said:
plasticpig said:
This is not the AA's fault. As I understand it the FSA have changed the regulations so auto renewal is not allowed .
Not true mate its nothing to do with the FSA's guidelines, its each companys own policy whether they do assumptive renewals or not , some do and some dont.

R
My broker is telling me porkies then as thats what they told me when I asked them why it was no longer auto renew.

jamoor

14,506 posts

246 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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I am surprised people auto renew, why don't they spend 30 mins each year shopping around?

Glassman

25,090 posts

246 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Elephant are good
Pray you don't have to submit a claim.

emicen

9,258 posts

249 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Chrisgr31 said:
plasticpig said:
This is not the AA's fault. As I understand it the FSA have changed the regulations so auto renewal is not allowed .
Well that will catch out thousands of people then. I know everyone on here is perfect, but I rarely check my bank statement, always need to do a majpr search for insurance documentation etc,and can understad why people are caught out if there is no auto-renewal.

Now the FSA is a government organisation? The government is short of money........ ah taht explains it. More fines on the way!
As Ross said, nowt to do with FSA legislation, they have more than enough to worry about at the moment figuring out how their "treating customers fairly" nonsense will stand up to scruitiny if the housing market tanks and all the dodgy mortgage shinanigans are uncovered.

The FSA are not a government body as such. They are a company in legal terms.

Also, whilst I have absolute contempt for the shower of cretins in charge, suggesting they would change legislation to deliberately make a large proportion of the driving public break the law just to garner more fines seems a touch far.

Mike400

1,026 posts

262 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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anonymous said:
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+1,

very similar situation, my wife was insured through AA with me as a named driver. I had an accident in my own car, went through my own insurance company, very minor ding.

When my wife went to renew her insurance, she told them about my accident. They changed the qoute from £500 to £1100.

As my insurance covers me to drive her car anyway, she decided to remove me as a named driver and see what difference that made to the qoute. "removing your husband....eh...right just waiting for the computer....ok that will be £950"

WTF??

We said thanks but no thanks, insured her car through Tesco with me on the policy as a named driver, all for £400 including a free £100 karcher pressure washer.

illmonkey

19,840 posts

229 months

Thursday 10th July 2008
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Glassman said:
Simpo Two said:
Elephant are good
Pray you don't have to submit a claim.
We've had a claim through elephant and it was very seemless! Much better than the Tesco one a few years back.

Phoned up, reported it. Got thr quote for other car to be fixed. They faxed over confirmation to the garage and work was carried out.

Must of been 3or4 phone calls and no problems.