Putting offer in on new house now
Putting offer in on new house now
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rex

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2,067 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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I am currently considering buying a house that I like. It is a new build and is ideal for us in the area we like and the road we like. I am not too bothered with the house as an investment as it will be a home for the next 10 years or so. I am struggling to decide how much to offer with regards to the percentage below asking price as they have indicated offers would be welcome. It has been reduced slightly already (couple of % only) and not all the houses are sold. (Only a small development). I am a cash buyer so would this make a big difference.

All opinions gratefully received.


Olf

11,978 posts

248 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Opinions on new builds here recently have been that - if the offer you make doesn't embarrass you when you make it - it's not low enough.

What's it up for?

Edited for absolute stupidity.

Edited by Olf on Thursday 24th July 20:06


Edited by Olf on Thursday 24th July 20:06


Please no-one quote me - I must be ill in the head tonight. That short post took 4 attempts.

Edited by Olf on Thursday 24th July 20:07

cannondale

210 posts

222 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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They will absolutely love the fact that you are a cash buyer! I would go in as low and as cheeky as you think is appropriate!! They worse they can say is no!

trooperiziz

9,457 posts

282 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Start at 20% and see what they say.

When you do get them to agree a figure, then start asking them to pay the stamp duty, then when they agree that get the carpets thrown in for free too...


Chessers

746 posts

242 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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I'd be looking at between 15 - 25%. If you are a cash buyer they will be very keen to do a deal and get it sold asap.

rex

Original Poster:

2,067 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Thanks for the replies. I was thinking 20% below asking price but as I haven't bought a house in a market on the way down I feel in no mans land. Does it make a difference how much the house is worth. Is there a much bigger margin on large houses as land prices in the area are not cheep.

spikeyhead

20,550 posts

227 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Try and find out something about the developers.

I know of a few small developers that are stting themselves at the moment, overstretched themselves on cheap credit and are now desperately seeking any reasonable escape route.

I'd do some research on what a similar place in that area was worth at the peak last summer and start negotiating 40% below that. Its not as if there's a shortage of property out there at the moment.

Dodgey_Rog

2,025 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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rex said:
Thanks for the replies. I was thinking 20% below asking price but as I haven't bought a house in a market on the way down I feel in no mans land. Does it make a difference how much the house is worth. Is there a much bigger margin on large houses as land prices in the area are not cheep.
Sorry, is this a new build or a resale property? I've been giving advice this last couple of weeks and managed to save a friend a bloody fortune on a new build.

ln1234

848 posts

228 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Remember, it's a buyers market. Therefore you're in the position to call the shots - not them.

I would test the water to see how willing they are to compromise. Start with a really low offer - in fact, try to extrapolate forward to about 18 months (winter 09) and imagine how much it might be worth then - knock 10% off that as a good starting point. I know it's not easy, but you want to do the best for you and your family, the same way the seller wants for himself. It's just business, and you shouldn't let it get personal. Also, be prepared to walk away if need be. Plenty of other opportunities now and in the future.

Good Luck!

cs02rm0

13,966 posts

221 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Prices could easily fall another 30%, make sure your offer ensures that you can cope with that.

schmalex

13,616 posts

236 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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I would start with an opening offer 40% below current asking & aim for a walk out position of somewhere around 20 / 25% below current asking, making sure you go up in ever decreasing increments during the negotiation. Don't consider any cashback deals etc.

With your first offer, you have to aim low and ensure that they are fully aware of your position, as this will be your main negotiating strength.

Dodgey_Rog

2,025 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Exactly, there's load of tricks to save you money, the only way you have an advantage at the moment is if you have no house to sell, find the house you want on a new development, lace up the hob nails and kick them hard. I managed to advise a friend to get 30% off and have loads of stuff changed in the house. the other trick is, when you exchange, a few days before completion, tell your FA or the site Salesperson that you're 10k light on your deposit and that you might have to pull out or delay completion for a few months, they will, 9 times out of 10 cover that shortfall. You can buy that 46" TV, some tasty hardware and anything else you had your eye on.

Its worth a go as they're desperate for cash flow at the moment, they've had such a great time until now, the likes of Wimpey and Barratt are desperate for the cash. At this point in time, every region has to report to directors and chairmen with their figures, so your chances of getting extra money off is good, so go fill your boots!

rex

Original Poster:

2,067 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Wow, I'd better get the big boots out then. Just to clarify, yes it is a new build and only 40% have been sold at present. Smallish company as well. I will let you know how I get on.

spikeyhead

20,550 posts

227 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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rex said:
Wow, I'd better get the big boots out then. Just to clarify, yes it is a new build and only 40% have been sold at present. Smallish company as well. I will let you know how I get on.
Do you fancy being surrounded by housing association tenants?

rex

Original Poster:

2,067 posts

296 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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I don't think its the type of property for housing association tenants. It is a very small development.

ALawson

8,055 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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Apparently houses are normally 1/3 land, 1/3 building, 1/3 profit so I would work of that. Depending upon the developer they will need as much cash as possible at the moment for redundancy packages!

ss64ii

304 posts

248 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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The site has to be over a certain number of properties to have 'affordable homes' in it, I believe it's between 20 & 40.

Neil_H

15,418 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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I would start at 40%, as a cash buyer like you is like gold dust at the moment. I think this puts you in a very strong position.

RodentRacing

1,502 posts

301 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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spikeyhead said:
rex said:
Wow, I'd better get the big boots out then. Just to clarify, yes it is a new build and only 40% have been sold at present. Smallish company as well. I will let you know how I get on.
Do you fancy being surrounded by housing association tenants?
Nobody does. Nobody. Avoid like a Palestian in a bulldozer.

mxi933

467 posts

238 months

Thursday 24th July 2008
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its all too easy to get carried away with this "buyers Market" and I'm stronger than atlas cause I want to buy mentality. But consider this, offer too low and the seller may well tell you to get stuffed and find a tennant. If you want it and you intend to stay in it don't try and screw the owner cause you may end up shooting yourself in the foot