God or Ghosts?

[dan1981]

Just wondering if their is a corrolation between the two - in light of how popular the "god does / doesn't exist" threads and the "Ghosts exist / don't exist" ones are.

Oh and its deliberate that there isn't a "I'm not sure button"

Edited by dan1981 on Tuesday 29th July 16:34

[Eric Mc]

So no room for agnostics or "don't knows" or "don't cares" then?

[Airbag]

Eric Mc said:

So no room for agnostics or "don't knows" or "don't cares" then?

If you don't know you don't believe, if you don't care why would you vote in the first place?

[dan1981]

Eric Mc said:

So no room for agnostics or "don't knows" or "don't cares" then?

Nah, in the the posts that generated my curiosity very few of the people in the threads seemed so unceretain of their views.

It seems things either do or do not exist.

[dan1981]

hmmm not too many votes so far but not the results I expected. I expected "belive in neither" to be leading but then expect both to be more popular than the others....

anyone who voted for just god or just ghosts got any particular explanation why they find one more believable than the other?

[sstein]

How can you believe in god and not believe in ghosts?

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Stuart

[Simpo Two]

Well there is (allegedly) the 'holy ghost' although who the heck he was when alive is not clear.

Mumbo jumbo.

[Chrispy Porker]

I've seen a ghost.
Still waiting for God though.

[dan1981]

deserved a bump with all the other polls

[jmorgan]

dan1981 said:

deserved a bump with all the other polls

Ghostly bump?

[Hedders]

I can't vote. I have only just realised that i can not honestly commit to a yes or no vote about whether i believe ghosts do exist! I like to think they do, and think i have witnessed some stuff as a kid. But I also think it must be rubbish and i was imagining things.

Undecided.

Edited by Hedders on Wednesday 6th August 15:26

[fatboy b]

sstein said:

How can you believe in god and not believe in ghosts?

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Stuart

ghosts were (allegedly) living at some point. Gods are made up by their believers.

[sstein]

From XKCD



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Stuart

[pgilc1]

Chrispy Porker said:

I've seen a ghost.
Still waiting for God though.

No you havent. Ghosts dont exist.

I wouldnt hold my breath for god either. Or the tooth fairy.

[Big Rod]

I believe!

No I really do, but not what you might think.

I've not met anyone with my beliefs yet, (although some are similar.).

God's a power/energy source. One we don't understand/realise yet. It's not a man with a white beard in a cloud!

Y'can't destroy it and y'can't create it. It's a constant. We just don't get it yet.

As such, we're all created in it's image. I'm not talking about human beings perse, I'm talking about all of creation and the percieved randomness of evolution.

There's a fundamental law, (or laws), in our make up. I don't think I can articulate it all in any one sentence, but 'The Ten Commandments" go a long way to nailing it down.

I believe in both God, (in a fashion!), and Darwinism/natural selection.

Anyone else agree or want to discuss further?

[dan1981]

Big Rod said:

I believe!

No I really do, but not what you might think.

I've not met anyone with my beliefs yet, (although some are similar.).

God's a power/energy source. One we don't understand/realise yet. It's not a man with a white beard in a cloud!

Y'can't destroy it and y'can't create it. It's a constant. We just don't get it yet.

As such, we're all created in it's image. I'm not talking about human beings perse, I'm talking about all of creation and the percieved randomness of evolution.

There's a fundamental law, (or laws), in our make up. I don't think I can articulate it all in any one sentence, but 'The Ten Commandments" go a long way to nailing it down.

I believe in both God, (in a fashion!), and Darwinism/natural selection.

Anyone else agree or want to discuss further?

Isn't this called "being agnostic?"

ETA: I may be slightly wrong....

Edited by dan1981 on Wednesday 6th August 23:04

[pgilc1]

Big Rod said:

I believe!

No I really do, but not what you might think.

I've not met anyone with my beliefs yet, (although some are similar.).

God's a power/energy source. One we don't understand/realise yet. It's not a man with a white beard in a cloud!

Y'can't destroy it and y'can't create it. It's a constant. We just don't get it yet.

As such, we're all created in it's image. I'm not talking about human beings perse, I'm talking about all of creation and the percieved randomness of evolution.

There's a fundamental law, (or laws), in our make up. I don't think I can articulate it all in any one sentence, but 'The Ten Commandments" go a long way to nailing it down.

I believe in both God, (in a fashion!), and Darwinism/natural selection.

Anyone else agree or want to discuss further?

So, summarising, you believe in an invisible man like figure, who lives in the clouds and watches us all?

[Big Rod]

pgilc1 said:

So, summarising, you believe in an invisible man like figure, who lives in the clouds and watches us all?

Absolutely not. I don't believe that there's any intelligence, (as we know it at least), guiding us in evolution but there are certain natural laws/rules, call them what you will, that fashion or development to a certain extent. A simple example would be the patterns iron filing make around a magnet or the effects flux has around a live wire it's uniform but depends on the shape of the magnetic object.

If you think about it, we are nothing but a bundle of chemicals that to all intents and purposes could be manufactured in a lab. There's something else that keeps us going. Let's call that 'spiritual energy'. As we know, energy can't be created or destroyed. I see us, (everything on earth), as conductors of that spiritual energy. Some conduct more and some less but we all affect our surroundings just as a magnet or live wire affect it's surroundings.

I see ghosts as sparks of energy arcing over a broken link/wire.

But then this is all just my theory/belief, I could be wrong but it makes sense to me.

[V8mate]

10.20 am - 42% stupidity level on PH

[Big Rod]

V8mate said:

10.20 am - 42% stupidity level on PH

And why would that be?

So 42% of people choose to believe in something that can't be proved. Yet you believe the opposite which also can't be proved for exactly the same reasons and you call the opposition 'stupid'?

That makes you narrow minded and, as such, the stupid one.

Edited by Big Rod on Thursday 7th August 10:30