Have you been promoted to your level of incompetance?

[Timmy35]

Someone said to me the other day that people end up getting promoted to the level at which they are no longer able to do a really good job. Hence their level of incompetance.

For different people the level will differ, I mean I reckon I'd be an incompetant petrol pump attendant.

So what about you? HAve you been promoted to your maximum natural level of incompetance?

[TedMaul]

Timmy35 said:

Someone said to me the other day that people end up getting promoted to the level at which they are no longer able to do a really good job. Hence their level of incompetance.

For different people the level will differ, I mean I reckon I'd be an incompetant petrol pump attendant.

So what about you? HAve you been promoted to your maximum natural level of incompetance?

No. I believe there is a whole raft of things I have yet to fail miserably at. I am, imho, exec management material.

[gopher]

No I haven't, but I don't want to be a manager anyway.

[chris_w666]

No I'm still only a junior manager (that runs the place at least 80% of the time) so I have a bit to go before the stuff ups are 'mine' and I am deemed incompetent.

[sleep envy]

the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often

[Fer]

sleep envy said:

the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often

The Peter Principle. Promomoted until you are no longer capable.

[marshalla]

Timmy35 said:

So what about you? HAve you been promoted to your maximum natural level of incompetance?

No, but everyone else has and they're all envious of my ability to spell incompetence so will never promote me.

[Adam_W]

well below my ability here but finding it hard to find somewhere else to be

[Justayellowbadge]

sleep envy said:

the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often

How's the new position, by the way?

[V8mate]

I got so fed up with employers failing to appreciate the level of incompetence I could offer them that I gave up working for other people and set up my own business to encourage others to aspire to be like me

[sleep envy]

Justayellowbadge said:

sleep envy said:

the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often

How's the new position, by the way?

dull

[bob1179]

I have no idea what I am doing 99% of the time.

All is well.

I think.

[DrTre]

Way, way, way beyond.

Every day I am exploring as yet (but not for long) uncharted territories of incompetence.

[randomman]

I think the ultimate goal here is to become PM, the most incompetant person in the world ever

[Mr POD]

Fer said:

sleep envy said:

the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often

The Peter Principle. Promomoted until you are no longer capable.

Promoted too fast without real experience and NO training. So that you end up 2 or 3 levels higher than you can cope with, 10 years before you were ready.

Yes. Been there, done it, had the breakdown, got de-moted, moved sideways, treated like a real jerk. Moved on to a lower level job again in a higher paying company with managers who know what they are doing and respect where you've been and what you know and can see it worth training you for the future.

Job Titles say a lot:
1989 - Enginer (Desperate for pay rise)
1993 - Senior Engineer (More desperate for pay rise)
1994 - Project Manager (Still desperate for a pay rise)
1996 - Principal Engineer (Needing a reasonable pay rise)
1998 - Operations Engineer (With a reasonable pay rise)
2000 - Engineering Team leader (with a reasonable pay rise)
2001 - Senior Engineer (With a massive pay cut)
2002 - Six Sigma Black Belt (with a minute pay rise)
2006 - Assembly Manager (With a promise of a decent rise)
2007 - Demoted to Engineer (With future rises ring fenced)
2008 - Moved to a job as Engineer (with a big enough pay rise taht there is no real financial need to chase promotion.

I worked out last week that I've had a 6% pay rise (as an average) per year for 19 years. So if inflation has averaged 3.5%, my experience per year has netted me 2.5% per year.

The real cause of all this is big companies getting rid of their incremental pay structures. Without a promotion it is now mpossible to go from single graduate in bedsit to married with 2 kids and a mortgage in 5 years.

[big_rob_sydney]

Mr POD said:

Fer said:

sleep envy said:

the dilbert principle - bump them up stairs so they don;t fk about with your work

sadly, I have seen it happen all too often

The Peter Principle. Promomoted until you are no longer capable.

Promoted too fast without real experience and NO training. So that you end up 2 or 3 levels higher than you can cope with, 10 years before you were ready.

Yes. Been there, done it, had the breakdown, got de-moted, moved sideways, treated like a real jerk. Moved on to a lower level job again in a higher paying company with managers who know what they are doing and respect where you've been and what you know and can see it worth training you for the future.

Job Titles say a lot:
1989 - Enginer (Desperate for pay rise)
1993 - Senior Engineer (More desperate for pay rise)
1994 - Project Manager (Still desperate for a pay rise)
1996 - Principal Engineer (Needing a reasonable pay rise)
1998 - Operations Engineer (With a reasonable pay rise)
2000 - Engineering Team leader (with a reasonable pay rise)
2001 - Senior Engineer (With a massive pay cut)
2002 - Six Sigma Black Belt (with a minute pay rise)
2006 - Assembly Manager (With a promise of a decent rise)
2007 - Demoted to Engineer (With future rises ring fenced)
2008 - Moved to a job as Engineer (with a big enough pay rise taht there is no real financial need to chase promotion.

I worked out last week that I've had a 6% pay rise (as an average) per year for 19 years. So if inflation has averaged 3.5%, my experience per year has netted me 2.5% per year.

The real cause of all this is big companies getting rid of their incremental pay structures. Without a promotion it is now mpossible to go from single graduate in bedsit to married with 2 kids and a mortgage in 5 years.

I dont see the problem. People that are motivated will sort themselves out.

People that have the "entitlement" mindest will sit on their arses and moan about it. And more than likely get what they deserve.

[Soft Top]

OMG, so far past my level of competance.

I am incompetant at the best of times but now I run the place. Scary!

[DIW35]

Definitely in over my head. Still I'm only responsible for the lives and safety of about 20,000 people on each shift, so who'd notice if I cocked up!?

[Swilly]

Theological discussions are ongoing as to whether i can be promoted to that position which 'may' be beyond my competence !!

;)

[Jasandjules]

I don't have any level of competence at all.