Luckly we know how to treat real criminals!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I find this unbelievable but perhaps not in the new world of new labour.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=...
It's appalling. But since the UK is now a police state, it doesn't surprise me one little bit.
It's the next part however that shocks me the most using children against their own parents and then presenting their "crimes" at school to the teacher. What wouldn't surprise me is if the teacher then recorded these "crimes" to the government, and they in turn got a visit from some left-wing enviromentalist government agency representative.
It's the next part however that shocks me the most using children against their own parents and then presenting their "crimes" at school to the teacher. What wouldn't surprise me is if the teacher then recorded these "crimes" to the government, and they in turn got a visit from some left-wing enviromentalist government agency representative.
Article said:
Energy firm recruits children as 'climate cops'
Last week's Sunday Times carried a large advertisement for the German-owned energy company npower, inviting children to "save the planet this summer" by becoming "climate cops". A picture showed a sleeping dad, with a notice on his head warning in a childish scrawl that he had been found guilty of "climate crime" by "falling asleep with the tv still on".
For more "interactive games and fun downloads", readers were invited to contact npower's Climate Cops website. This explains in comicbook format how children can spy on their parents, relatives and neighbours to catch them out in seven "climate crimes", such as leaving the TV on standby, putting hot food in a fridge or freezer (as is recommended by hygiene experts) or failing to use low-energy light bulbs.
Children could record these offences in a "climate crime case file", while teachers are offered a full "learning resource" pack for use in schools, including a PowerPoint presentation and posters for classroom walls.
When my colleague Richard North asked the Advertising Standards Authority how they squared this with their rules prohibiting "marketing communications" which "undermine parental authority", they replied (as he records on his EU Referendum blog) that they had "considered you (sic) objections but do not feel it have (sic) breached our Codes on the basis you suggest".
My own advice to children tempted to become "climate cops" is that they might begin by looking at npower's own record as operators of 13 fossil fuel power stations.
Its coal-fired Aberthaw power station in Wales, for instance, emits more CO2 in two months than is notionally saved in a year by all the 2,000 wind turbines now disfiguring Britain's countryside. If merely going to sleep in front of the TV is a "climate crime", why haven't the directors of npower put themselves behind bars long ago?
Last week's Sunday Times carried a large advertisement for the German-owned energy company npower, inviting children to "save the planet this summer" by becoming "climate cops". A picture showed a sleeping dad, with a notice on his head warning in a childish scrawl that he had been found guilty of "climate crime" by "falling asleep with the tv still on".
For more "interactive games and fun downloads", readers were invited to contact npower's Climate Cops website. This explains in comicbook format how children can spy on their parents, relatives and neighbours to catch them out in seven "climate crimes", such as leaving the TV on standby, putting hot food in a fridge or freezer (as is recommended by hygiene experts) or failing to use low-energy light bulbs.
Children could record these offences in a "climate crime case file", while teachers are offered a full "learning resource" pack for use in schools, including a PowerPoint presentation and posters for classroom walls.
When my colleague Richard North asked the Advertising Standards Authority how they squared this with their rules prohibiting "marketing communications" which "undermine parental authority", they replied (as he records on his EU Referendum blog) that they had "considered you (sic) objections but do not feel it have (sic) breached our Codes on the basis you suggest".
My own advice to children tempted to become "climate cops" is that they might begin by looking at npower's own record as operators of 13 fossil fuel power stations.
Its coal-fired Aberthaw power station in Wales, for instance, emits more CO2 in two months than is notionally saved in a year by all the 2,000 wind turbines now disfiguring Britain's countryside. If merely going to sleep in front of the TV is a "climate crime", why haven't the directors of npower put themselves behind bars long ago?
Ah, so its happened then...
Crimes against the environment will carry greater sentences than those against people
Its only a matter of time before the political elite become the judge, jury and sentencer for everything. Some say its already come, but its doomsday when it finally happens. Human life is worthless in the eyes of these people. Call me extreme, but when a car thief gets a suspended sentence and a £120 fine and a fisherman gets a £42k, well its pretty clear which they regard as the most extreme and dangerous here.
Over simplification of a massively complex and political subject? Oh, of course. Yet should it ever get to this in the first place? Surely the protection of the populous as a whole is the primary concern? Not some bloody fish and an EU quota? Maybe I am missing something after all.
Crimes against the environment will carry greater sentences than those against people
Its only a matter of time before the political elite become the judge, jury and sentencer for everything. Some say its already come, but its doomsday when it finally happens. Human life is worthless in the eyes of these people. Call me extreme, but when a car thief gets a suspended sentence and a £120 fine and a fisherman gets a £42k, well its pretty clear which they regard as the most extreme and dangerous here.
Over simplification of a massively complex and political subject? Oh, of course. Yet should it ever get to this in the first place? Surely the protection of the populous as a whole is the primary concern? Not some bloody fish and an EU quota? Maybe I am missing something after all.
pays for a couple of MPs expenses I guess?
although sadly, they knew they were doing wrong so only themselves to blame in a "black and white" view.
Personally I think the punishment is OTT, but like with speed cameras, smoking bans etc, doesn't matter how stupid they are, the law is the law
although sadly, they knew they were doing wrong so only themselves to blame in a "black and white" view.
Personally I think the punishment is OTT, but like with speed cameras, smoking bans etc, doesn't matter how stupid they are, the law is the law
Monki said:
pays for a couple of MPs expenses I guess?
although sadly, they knew they were doing wrong so only themselves to blame in a "black and white" view.
Personally I think the punishment is OTT, but like with speed cameras, smoking bans etc, doesn't matter how stupid they are, the law is the law
No, the law has been subverted into becoming a revenue generation mechanism. Therefore, infringing such "laws" is no longer a crime as long as you are prepared to pay the fine if caught. Just another tax really.although sadly, they knew they were doing wrong so only themselves to blame in a "black and white" view.
Personally I think the punishment is OTT, but like with speed cameras, smoking bans etc, doesn't matter how stupid they are, the law is the law
With those children, he thought, that wretched woman must lead a life of terror. Another year, two years, and they would be watching her night and day for symptoms of unorthodoxy. Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages...... All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children. And with good reason, for hardly a week passed in which The Times did not carry a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak -- 'child hero' was the phrase generally used -- had overheard some compromising remark and denounced its parents to the Thought Police.
i find it incredible that the fishermen now have to prove 1000's of bank transactions are legit. that could take them years, and i can't remember what i spent half of lasts months wages on, let alone last years.
this country beggars belief, they get a sentence and yet the judge should have been hauling the ministry over the coals as they refused to implement rules that would have made this a legal transaction.
the ministry bods should be facing charges and these guys should be let out with a payout, which i am happy to help fund through my ludicrous tax burden
does that now mean if i get pulled for speeding, i can say well he was only doing 50 in a 70 o i used some of his. :-)
this country beggars belief, they get a sentence and yet the judge should have been hauling the ministry over the coals as they refused to implement rules that would have made this a legal transaction.
the ministry bods should be facing charges and these guys should be let out with a payout, which i am happy to help fund through my ludicrous tax burden
does that now mean if i get pulled for speeding, i can say well he was only doing 50 in a 70 o i used some of his. :-)
ExPat2B said:
With those children, he thought, that wretched woman must lead a life of terror. Another year, two years, and they would be watching her night and day for symptoms of unorthodoxy. Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages...... All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children. And with good reason, for hardly a week passed in which The Times did not carry a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak -- 'child hero' was the phrase generally used -- had overheard some compromising remark and denounced its parents to the Thought Police.
Orwell was rubbish, he got the year wrong by 24 years 
mouseymousey said:
ExPat2B said:
With those children, he thought, that wretched woman must lead a life of terror. Another year, two years, and they would be watching her night and day for symptoms of unorthodoxy. Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages...... All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children. And with good reason, for hardly a week passed in which The Times did not carry a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak -- 'child hero' was the phrase generally used -- had overheard some compromising remark and denounced its parents to the Thought Police.
Orwell was rubbish, he got the year wrong by 24 years Mrr T said:
I find this unbelievable but perhaps not in the new world of new labour.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=...
I wonder if other EU countries police those requlations as aggresively as we do?http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=...
off_again said:
Ah, so its happened then...
Crimes against the environment will carry greater sentences than those against people
My apologies for taking the thread off track a little but it looks like it. Just don't overfill your bin from now on people, you could be punished worse than a shoplifter.Crimes against the environment will carry greater sentences than those against people
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2493788/The...
beanbag said:
It's appalling. But since the UK is now a police state, it doesn't surprise me one little bit.
It's the next part however that shocks me the most using children against their own parents and then presenting their "crimes" at school to the teacher. What wouldn't surprise me is if the teacher then recorded these "crimes" to the government, and they in turn got a visit from some left-wing enviromentalist government agency representative.
It's very enterprising.It's the next part however that shocks me the most using children against their own parents and then presenting their "crimes" at school to the teacher. What wouldn't surprise me is if the teacher then recorded these "crimes" to the government, and they in turn got a visit from some left-wing enviromentalist government agency representative.
Article said:
Energy firm recruits children as 'climate cops'
Last week's Sunday Times carried a large advertisement for the German-owned energy company npower, inviting children to "save the planet this summer" by becoming "climate cops". A picture showed a sleeping dad, with a notice on his head warning in a childish scrawl that he had been found guilty of "climate crime" by "falling asleep with the tv still on".
For more "interactive games and fun downloads", readers were invited to contact npower's Climate Cops website. This explains in comicbook format how children can spy on their parents, relatives and neighbours to catch them out in seven "climate crimes", such as leaving the TV on standby, putting hot food in a fridge or freezer (as is recommended by hygiene experts) or failing to use low-energy light bulbs.
Children could record these offences in a "climate crime case file", while teachers are offered a full "learning resource" pack for use in schools, including a PowerPoint presentation and posters for classroom walls.
When my colleague Richard North asked the Advertising Standards Authority how they squared this with their rules prohibiting "marketing communications" which "undermine parental authority", they replied (as he records on his EU Referendum blog) that they had "considered you (sic) objections but do not feel it have (sic) breached our Codes on the basis you suggest".
My own advice to children tempted to become "climate cops" is that they might begin by looking at npower's own record as operators of 13 fossil fuel power stations.
Its coal-fired Aberthaw power station in Wales, for instance, emits more CO2 in two months than is notionally saved in a year by all the 2,000 wind turbines now disfiguring Britain's countryside. If merely going to sleep in front of the TV is a "climate crime", why haven't the directors of npower put themselves behind bars long ago?
Last week's Sunday Times carried a large advertisement for the German-owned energy company npower, inviting children to "save the planet this summer" by becoming "climate cops". A picture showed a sleeping dad, with a notice on his head warning in a childish scrawl that he had been found guilty of "climate crime" by "falling asleep with the tv still on".
For more "interactive games and fun downloads", readers were invited to contact npower's Climate Cops website. This explains in comicbook format how children can spy on their parents, relatives and neighbours to catch them out in seven "climate crimes", such as leaving the TV on standby, putting hot food in a fridge or freezer (as is recommended by hygiene experts) or failing to use low-energy light bulbs.
Children could record these offences in a "climate crime case file", while teachers are offered a full "learning resource" pack for use in schools, including a PowerPoint presentation and posters for classroom walls.
When my colleague Richard North asked the Advertising Standards Authority how they squared this with their rules prohibiting "marketing communications" which "undermine parental authority", they replied (as he records on his EU Referendum blog) that they had "considered you (sic) objections but do not feel it have (sic) breached our Codes on the basis you suggest".
My own advice to children tempted to become "climate cops" is that they might begin by looking at npower's own record as operators of 13 fossil fuel power stations.
Its coal-fired Aberthaw power station in Wales, for instance, emits more CO2 in two months than is notionally saved in a year by all the 2,000 wind turbines now disfiguring Britain's countryside. If merely going to sleep in front of the TV is a "climate crime", why haven't the directors of npower put themselves behind bars long ago?
The Nazi's used this exact same method against the Jews and other enemies of the state.
It's so nice to see it being brought back into service some 60 years on.
Hopefully, the children will also be able to shoot their parents in the back of the head with a Luger and have the fantastic joy of watching them slide into the pit with all the other bodies of the environmental crimals. Although it would be far more economical to bring back gas chambers I'm not sure they would pass the modern emissions requirements.
Viva the new Hitler Youth.
ZR1cliff said:
off_again said:
Ah, so its happened then...
Crimes against the environment will carry greater sentences than those against people
My apologies for taking the thread off track a little but it looks like it. Just don't overfill your bin from now on people, you could be punished worse than a shoplifter.Crimes against the environment will carry greater sentences than those against people
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2493788/The...
On a more serious note, if the council refused to give bin men an annual pay rise, they go on strike, so they save the money of paying them, save money on a pay rise and get shed loads from people with overflowing bin... I should be Gordon Brown... oh wait, no I shouldn't I dont want to be raped by satan.
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