Avoiding 'Death by Powerpoint'
Avoiding 'Death by Powerpoint'
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Mobile Chicane

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22,029 posts

243 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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I spend far too much time trawling t'interweb for pictures to liven up deeply dull data presentations.

Just stumbled across an absolutely brilliant site with slide templates, pictures and tips: www.slideshare.net

In particular: http://www.slideshare.net/thecroaker/death-by-powe...

/as you were smile

V8mate

45,899 posts

220 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Thanks for sharing smile

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

273 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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That reminds me a little of a Dutch client who handed out hundreds of flyers urging employees to save paper.

Meeja

8,290 posts

279 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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For many of our clients we now re-write their powerpoint presentations in Flash, and use 3d models to create graphics.

The final thing looks like a powerpoint presentation, only with slick moves and animations.

We have won conference business purely on our ability to make their dull presentations look cool and interesting.

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

315 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Here's a tip: don't use powerpoint.

Powerpoint is a tool for people with no presentation skills.

Mannginger

10,304 posts

288 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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HundredthIdiot said:
Here's a tip: don't use powerpoint.

Powerpoint is a tool for people with no presentation skills.
I'll bite then as I'm interested in the answer. How do you propose one should deliver a presentation in a mainstream organisation? Most people's laptops come equipped with Powerpoint as standard and in some companies it's very difficult to be given admin rights or licences to utilise other products.

Or do you mean, utilise no computer driven visual aids etc in presentations?

Cheers

Phil

Munter

31,331 posts

272 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Mannginger said:
HundredthIdiot said:
Here's a tip: don't use powerpoint.

Powerpoint is a tool for people with no presentation skills.
I'll bite then as I'm interested in the answer. How do you propose one should deliver a presentation in a mainstream organisation? Most people's laptops come equipped with Powerpoint as standard and in some companies it's very difficult to be given admin rights or licences to utilise other products.

Or do you mean, utilise no computer driven visual aids etc in presentations?

Cheers

Phil
Not to mention how he's going to give it over some of the web presentation tools that specifically integrate with Power Point.

Anyway there are no bad tools. Just bad users....

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

315 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Mannginger said:
Or do you mean, utilise no computer driven visual aids etc in presentations?
Yes. Churchill and Hitler managed to get their points across, somehow.

Powerpoint is an excellent way of delivering detail no-one will ever remember.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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HundredthIdiot said:
Here's a tip: don't use powerpoint.

Powerpoint is a tool for people with no presentation skills.
That's total cock!

Powerpoint is a tool that MANY people use incorrectly!

fatboy b

9,666 posts

247 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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If there's one thing I hate, it's a smart-arse who includes stupid pictures in a powerpoint presentation.

Swilly

9,699 posts

305 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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HundredthIdiot said:
Mannginger said:
Or do you mean, utilise no computer driven visual aids etc in presentations?
Yes. Churchill and Hitler managed to get their points across, somehow.

Powerpoint is an excellent way of delivering detail no-one will ever remember.
I hardly think roaring at the audience, finger waving in the air, rallying the observers on to dominate, destroy and fight on the beaches is going to get across the finer points of modern business !!

Churchill and Hitler had a blunt message to get across and thus, a blunt tool sufficed.

Use Powerpoint, but dont abuse it.

645ci

2,920 posts

222 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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HundredthIdiot said:
Here's a tip: don't use powerpoint.

Powerpoint is a tool for people with no presentation skills.
Absoloute bulls, its down to how you present it not the software rolleyes

Powerpoint starts of as a blank slide - you are in control from then on.

Tool.

HRG

72,863 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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fatboy b said:
If there's one thing I hate, it's a smart-arse who includes stupid pictures in a powerpoint presentation.
ANYONE using that duck smashing a computer image should be summarily executed yes

steven182

1,886 posts

232 months

bigburd

2,670 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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I rather the presenters with a chalk and talk ability...as previously mentioned Powerpoint is used by people who either cannot present or do not know their subject sufficiently well that they have to read from overloaded slides.

Most of the time when using PPT for a presentation it should be a few lightweight bullet points or clear diagrams to talk around and add substance to. The only exception is when you use it as a handover document ie I have installed this system and the highlevel support document is here...containing all the building blocks of the system with enough detail for an understanding with reference to other fully detailed documentation.


fatboy b

9,666 posts

247 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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HRG said:
fatboy b said:
If there's one thing I hate, it's a smart-arse who includes stupid pictures in a powerpoint presentation.
ANYONE using that duck smashing a computer image should be summarily executed yes
hehe

Mr POD

5,153 posts

223 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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HundredthIdiot said:
Mannginger said:
Or do you mean, utilise no computer driven visual aids etc in presentations?
Yes. Churchill and Hitler managed to get their points across, somehow.

Powerpoint is an excellent way of delivering detail no-one will ever remember.
Ask yourself what people did before all this fancy crap. (I'm a powerpoint whizz, but I keep my slides to a mininium and simple)

Mannginger

10,304 posts

288 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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Well they presumably used flip charts or handouts?

I'm not a serial powerpoint abuser but I do think that if you need to illustrate a point with visual information (charts / graphs etc) then Powerpoint is very handy, and cuts out the need to print and carry loads of handouts!


HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

315 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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If you need to get across lots of detail, why not just send them a document?

A presentation is a human interaction. It's about getting across a couple of key ideas, person to person, by telling stories. Otherwise, why have all these people travelled to be together? Why not just e-mail a document?

In my opinion, Powerpoint just gets in the way of the human stuff.

If you need to give people detail to back up your points, make handouts available or give them a URL after the presentation.

A good presentation CAN include slides, but usually they are just lubricant.

Bullet points are a very bad sign, no matter how thinly you spread them.

Meeja

8,290 posts

279 months

Wednesday 6th August 2008
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garyhun said:
HundredthIdiot said:
Here's a tip: don't use powerpoint.

Powerpoint is a tool for people with no presentation skills.
That's total cock!

Powerpoint is a tool that MANY people use incorrectly!
+1.... in fact, +lots.

We used powerpoint historically, and now a combination of powerpoint and flash for our screens at conference events that we produce. But we use it properly. I see dozens of poor powerpoint presentations that our clients submit to us before an event, and once I have politely told them how crap they look, I set about remaking them.

Can't ever remember any of our clients or delegates telling us that it looked cack.