one for the plane buffs
one for the plane buffs
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insurance_jon

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4,099 posts

277 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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I was watching the history chanel last night and it showed Goering at a preview of new luftwaffe planes. There was a couple of seconds clip of an asymetrically designed plane, i.e it had a fuselage next to one wing mounted engine. Firstly what is it? secondly are there any other designs like this and why?

Matt172

12,415 posts

275 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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did it look like this

was made by Blohm & Voss

bumblebee

557 posts

258 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Blohm & Voss designed quite a few aircraft in that configuration



interesting site Here

Edited by bumblebee on Saturday 9th August 10:38

Martin_Hx

4,029 posts

229 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Oo never seen that, how odd

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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bumblebee said:
interesting site Here
There goes my Saturday morning...

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bob1179

14,140 posts

240 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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CommanderJameson said:
bumblebee said:
interesting site Here
There goes my Saturday morning...

10 >>clicky clicky<<

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I think mine will be going the same way...

Some interesting stuff on there. I wonder why nobodyhas thought to follow up or recreate some of these odd designs in real life?

smile

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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bob1179 said:
CommanderJameson said:
bumblebee said:
interesting site Here
There goes my Saturday morning...

10 >>clicky clicky<<

20 >>ooh, blimey<<

30 GOTO 10
I think mine will be going the same way...

Some interesting stuff on there. I wonder why nobodyhas thought to follow up or recreate some of these odd designs in real life?

smile
Look at this one. Mad as a box of frogs.

bob1179

14,140 posts

240 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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CommanderJameson said:
Look at this one. Mad as a box of frogs.
That is awesome, I remember reading about the design of these. They had to take off and land while sat on their tails. I have a funny feeling the Luftwaffe didn't mind sending their pilots on one way missions...

I like this beast:

http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp170.html

smile

ADM777

29 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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bob1179 said:
Some interesting stuff on there. I wonder why nobodyhas thought to follow up or recreate some of these odd designs in real life?
Burt Rutan is the man you're looking for...




CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Sanger Amerika Bomber: top speed, 13,724MPH.

Now that's quick.

bob1179

14,140 posts

240 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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CommanderJameson said:
Sanger Amerika Bomber: top speed, 13,724MPH.

Now that's quick.
I just read all the details of it. It was so ahead of it's time in design, it's pretty amazing. In fact, I think the closest we have come to any aircraft like that recently, would be the British Aerospace HOTOL from the 1980's.

I would love to know how the materials and technologies of the time would have dealt with the massive changes in temperature and pressure the Sanger would have encountered.


CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Blimey. Look at the Heinkel He P.1079B. That'd look sharp and futuristic if it rolled down the runway now, never mind the neck end of 70 years ago.

insurance_jon

Original Poster:

4,099 posts

277 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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Matt172 said:
did it look like this

was made by Blohm & Voss
Thats the bunny.

some interesting things on those sites

RDMcG

20,908 posts

238 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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Yep.think it was a BV 141...by all accounts a very stable plane to fly,by the way.

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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Im a big fan of design's like this.

Assthetically (sp) pleasing to me. Almost like an old house that is indestructable, but you can't find a straight edge anywhere.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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BMW Schnellbomber II......

Was that down to Bangle's dad....?

Shar2

2,274 posts

244 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Check out the Luft Art pages for some really great pics of what some of these aircraft may have looked like.

Eric Mc

125,873 posts

296 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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I have mixed feelings about the whole "Luft 46" phenomenon. Whilst they may be fascinating in comcept, my hunch is that, even if the war had continued on to 1946 or even 1947/48, I doubt if the vast bulk of the projects would ever have entered service, or have had any significant impact on the outcome.

The German procurement procedures for the Luftwaffe were appallingly messy, inefficient and distorted by inter-ompany, inter-ministry and inter-personal rivalries and jealousies.

Even when new designs actually entered service, they were often poor performers or badly utilised.

Shar2

2,274 posts

244 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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All in all, a good job really then Eric hehe Quite a bit of useful info did come out of the captured designs, although we weren't that far behind. But, as with the Germans, we didn't have the materiel either.

Ponk

1,382 posts

223 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Eric Mc said:
I have mixed feelings about the whole "Luft 46" phenomenon. Whilst they may be fascinating in comcept, my hunch is that, even if the war had continued on to 1946 or even 1947/48, I doubt if the vast bulk of the projects would ever have entered service, or have had any significant impact on the outcome.

The German procurement procedures for the Luftwaffe were appallingly messy, inefficient and distorted by inter-ompany, inter-ministry and inter-personal rivalries and jealousies.

Even when new designs actually entered service, they were often poor performers or badly utilised.
The Me262 is a good example of that. It apparently took so long to get into production because Hitler wanted it as a bomber able to dart across the channel, had it been left to the designers/engineers/Luftwaffe it could have entered service much much sooner as a defensive fighter and had an impact on the air war over Germany.