Selling up to Rent
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NickFRP

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5,156 posts

266 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Thinking long and hard, what do the PH crew think about selling up and going into renting.

Any ideas?

Pros and Cons?

supersingle

3,205 posts

250 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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18 months too late. HTH

groucho

12,134 posts

277 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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NickFRP said:
Thinking long and hard, what do the PH crew think about selling up and going into renting.

Any ideas?

Pros and Cons?
Might be a good idea if you can get a buyer.

davido140

9,617 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Rent prices MAY stay artificially high compared to house prices (especially in the south east),

Technically there still isnt enough houses to go around and developers arent building as many new ones.

The Curn

917 posts

243 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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I'm just about to do this but for different reasons.

Sick of the village I'm living in so selling the house, sticking my nice six figure equity in the savings account and then letting the interest cover the rent on a house somewhere else whilst I look for the "dream home".

I'm adament that the next place will be the house for life so I want to get it right. I'm not paying stamp more times than I need to!

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Depends why? I'm already doing it as I am now a cash buyer looking for land so in a good position for my next move. However if you are happy where you are why bother!

garycat

5,430 posts

241 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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I've been trying to do this for the last 4 months but no one is buying despite me dropping the house price by £40K.

As said, you are about 12-18 months too late.


bobt

1,323 posts

234 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Wise move in my book. I think the housing market has sgot a long way to go down yet before it bottoms out. In my book at least another two to three years. Wit hinflation on the up to, in real monetary value tems it will be at least five years before prices are back to last summer's peak. Rent, earn some interest and keep your eyes open for that real bargain wit hthe desperate seller. Job's a good'n.

richyb

4,615 posts

241 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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supersingle said:
18 months too late. HTH
Nail on the head.

Targarama

14,791 posts

314 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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I can never understand this logic underless you have to relocate/move anyway.

Unless your kind of property is likely to drop by 50-100K+. You pay estate agent & solicitor fees to sell, removal expenses to move out/into rented. Pay rent for the duration, which (if you're renting something similar) will cost a fair whack. Then you pay stamp duty when you re-purchase + fees + removal costs. Plus all the stress of moving/chain problems/gazumping/gazundering problems.

There are less stressful ways to carry on...

King Herald

23,501 posts

247 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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NickFRP said:
Thinking long and hard, what do the PH crew think about selling up and going into renting.

Any ideas?

Pros and Cons?
Great idea, sell while the market is at the bottom, then buy back in three years time when it has recovered. yes

Buy high, sell low.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

253 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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garycat said:
I've been trying to do this for the last 4 months but no one is buying despite me dropping the house price by £40K.

As said, you are about 12-18 months too late.
Can I ask if this is £40k less than you paid, or £40k less than someone thought it was worth, or £40k less than the exact same house next door sold for?

eldar

25,343 posts

227 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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NickFRP said:
Thinking long and hard, what do the PH crew think about selling up and going into renting.

Any ideas?

Pros and Cons?
Depends on why you want to do it, where you want to live, how much equity you have, and how long term you are thinking....

If you are doing it to make money rather for somewhere to nicer to live, understand the risks.

Pros - you might sell a house for x, and buy it back in 2 years for x-20%, less costs.

Cons - you get the timing slightly wrong, house prices rise.

garycat

5,430 posts

241 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Fort Jefferson said:
garycat said:
I've been trying to do this for the last 4 months but no one is buying despite me dropping the house price by £40K.

As said, you are about 12-18 months too late.
Can I ask if this is £40k less than you paid, or £40k less than someone thought it was worth, or £40k less than the exact same house next door sold for?
The estate agent valued & marketed the house at £375K at the end of April, so far we have had one offer of £330K which has fallen through.

Our original plan was to sell here and use the interest on the cash to rent in the South West until the market picked up and then buy a bargain... but reality has set in frown

We are now thinking of renting out our house for ~£1200pcm and moving to the South West where we can rent similar for ~£900pcm and the area/schools are much better.

richyb

4,615 posts

241 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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Buyers pulling out seems to be the norm now. The flat next door is for sale and the sold sign has gone up and down from the for sale sign three times in six months. Dropped from £250k down to £205K and still sitting there.

NickFRP

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5,156 posts

266 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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The value of my bungalow is 40k above i paid, i can take a hit but that dents my profit. Prices are still going down. So id sit it out and maybe buy later or emigrate.



Flintstone

8,644 posts

278 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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NickFRP said:
The value of my bungalow is 40k above i paid, i can take a hit but that dents my profit.
It's not really your profit, is it? It may have been had you sold at the peak but even then that was in theory. I'm no economist but I'd suggest it only becomes 'profit' once it's in your/my grubby mitts.

Edited by Flintstone on Saturday 9th August 15:48

fido

18,930 posts

286 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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garycat said:
The estate agent valued & marketed the house at £375K at the end of April, so far we have had one offer of £330K which has fallen through.
It's a buyers market now, despite what the optimists on here think. Valuations mean jack in this environment - if there isn't a buyer out there at that price, and especially if it hasn't a USP, then it won't sell. Houses can be quite illiquid items. You'll need to offer it at a discount to valuation to tempt someone to buy it, and seeing what does sell-to-rent sharks are offering (i.e. 20% off valuation) thats one heck of a discount.

Edited by fido on Saturday 9th August 15:30

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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fido said:
garycat said:
The estate agent valued & marketed the house at £375K at the end of April, so far we have had one offer of £330K which has fallen through.
It's a buyers market now, despite what the optimists on here think. Valuations mean jack in this environment - if there isn't a buyer out there at that price, and especially if it hasn't a USP, then it won't sell. Houses can be quite illiquid items. You'll need to offer it at a discount to valuation to tempt someone to buy it, and seeing what does sell-to-rent sharks are offering (i.e. 20% off valuation) thats one heck of a discount.

Edited by fido on Saturday 9th August 15:30
I'd agree! I've been offered a few things recently at 20% below and I know there is more room to manoeuvre. Anybody looking to buy at present (unless it's something totally unique or in huge demand) is looking at 30% discounts at least as that seems to be the expectation of where the market will end up at the bottom. Even if those figures are wrong the expectation is at that level and until the expectation changes you will have to be very aggressive with price to shift anything.

Olf

11,978 posts

249 months

Saturday 9th August 2008
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supersingle said:
18 months too late. HTH
How can you say that without knowing his situation. Could have been that he bought his house 12 years ago and it's worth 10 times what he paid for it. You didn't know.

Stupid answer.

Edited by Olf on Saturday 9th August 16:11