Is D.I.Y. still legal?
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crankedup

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25,764 posts

274 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Having now given up trying to find a tradesman plumber to rip out old and install new bathroom in my home I decided that it would be a D.I.Y. job for my Son. So after four days the job is well on the way, just the pan and wash basin to fit and tiling to do.
So have I now broken every law under the sun in our almost now police state?

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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It's only electric and gas you need to have the relevant tickets for I think.

kambites

71,681 posts

252 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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I think the only issue is with electrics - you can't do any wiring in a "wet" room (bathroom or kitchen) without a licence. You can get an electrician in to check it and give you a safety certificate when you've finished though.

The only thing to bare in mind really, is that you need to earth bond any metal fittings. So the plug hole in the bath and sink, the overflow if it's metal, any taps which aren't connected directly to earthed pipes...

Modern wiring has a date stamp on it. If the date stamp is after the new regs came in and you don't have a safety certificate, you can be liable (for manslaughter I assume?) if anyone is injured by an electrical fault in the future.


Edited by kambites on Monday 11th August 19:09

robinhood21

31,278 posts

263 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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As long as you are paying the minimum wage you should be OK.

benzo

1,159 posts

242 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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GSI (get someone in ) is the present trend. However, given the credit crunch and presure on the economy it is said to be fashionable to holiday in the UK. Given a few more months of hardship im sure DIY will be fashionable again.


Is anything legal in this dump of a country?

Simpo Two

93,059 posts

296 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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I did my bathroom in 2005 and it hasn't killed me yet. Just take it slowly and check anything electrical is not live before you touch it - I find an electrical screwdriver with a neon very useful for this.

109 Bob

3,762 posts

249 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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yeah DIY is still legal as long as you don't do it yourself.

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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benzo said:
Is anything legal in this dump of a country?
How are the emigration plans going?

alfasudqv

17 posts

220 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Just dont leave any DNA @ the scene !!!!!!!!

benzo

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242 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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ewenm said:
benzo said:
Is anything legal in this dump of a country?
How are the emigration plans going?
Not to plan. Im still here.

KANEIT

2,856 posts

250 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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As long as you don't put fused spurs in shower enclosures or power electric ovens and hobs via woolies extensions!
Red to red, black to black, blue to bits.

wizzbilly

955 posts

224 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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gas work is a big no no but to be honest you wouldnt have this in there , i am a plumber by trade and instal bathrooms kitchens etc all day long

my advice would be yes have a go yourself , as for electrics just get someone round to come do them or just atleast pass them , i am part p but to be honest that dont realy mean you no nothing at all its just the basics realy

you are required to have certain distances etc from water fans etc if you need any mesurments let me no

something that might be some good reading for you is visting screwfix forum some very usfull info on there and if it isnt someone will anwr your questions

http://www.screwfix.com/talk/index.jspa?forumTab=f...

i would defanitly have the electrics tested due to if they cause damage etc the insurance will be asking for a pass cetificate etc

where are you located might be able to pass on a number

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

273 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Most sparks & plumbers couldn't give a toss what work you do at home. We don't write the laws. We don't agree with most of them ourselves.

However, don't post never-ending rants on here when you get charged through the nose to sort your cock-ups out biggrin

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

271 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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wizzbilly said:
gas work is a big no no
Legally, you're wrong. If you own the house and live in it (no tenants etc) you can install your own stuff after the meter. Whether you want to is another matter.

wizzbilly

955 posts

224 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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yes but i wouldnt be telling anyone that fact because end of day lifes are lifes ,

but what if it goes wrong who is going to pay not the insurance if they find out that you have done it yourself ,

if you must do it yourself i would recomend you atleast get someone that is registerd to atleast do a drop test

GTIR

24,741 posts

297 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
wizzbilly said:
gas work is a big no no
Legally, you're wrong. If you own the house and live in it (no tenants etc) you can install your own stuff after the meter. Whether you want to is another matter.
Not sure if that is still true, I know it used to be ok to do that (I installed my own boiler) but I am pretty sure the rules changed quite recently so you have to get a qualified person to do it.


captainzep

13,306 posts

223 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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I did all the gas piping to our new boiler.

We've got used to the hissing sound by and large.

And turning mobiles off.

And not using light switches.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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kambites said:
Modern wiring has a date stamp on it. If the date stamp is after the new regs came in and you don't have a safety certificate, you can be liable (for manslaughter I assume?) if anyone is injured by an electrical fault in the future.
The cores are a different colour, thats how they know when it was installed.

However, you can still buy black and red twin and earth so it makes a bit of a mockery of the whole thing.

Edited by Plotloss on Monday 11th August 20:19

wizzbilly

955 posts

224 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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dont forget the no smoking sign at the front door you should be ashamed lol

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

271 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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wizzbilly said:
if you must do it yourself i would recomend you atleast get someone that is registerd to atleast do a drop test
Oh I quite agree, it's like everything in life. There's nothing stopping people without 2 brain cells to rub together working on car brakes etc etc but it is legal. Know your limits. Problem is it seems the thicker people are the less aware they are just how far over them they've stepped.