The North - beyond help

[Mekon]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7556937.stm

Coming from the Home Counties, I can confirm that Cambridge is already quite grim enough to make them feel at home. All in all, it seems a sensible idea. I mean, how many of us have wondered what the point of Liverpool is? I have asked this question of a scouser before, and all the sense I could get out of him was something about the unique humour.

Personally, I don't think Bob Carolgees and his spitting dog routine is enough.

[Corpulent Tosser]

Labour MP Peter Kilfoyle described the Policy Exchange report as "utter nonsense".

Its not often I agree with a Labour MP but in this case

[leggly]

Liverpool really is the the arse end of the country. No redeeming features whatsoever. Why would you not want to leave?

[Corpulent Tosser]

Well I don't live there so cannot speak as a scouser but what immediately springs to minds is, friends, family, roots, work. Just the usual things that tie someone to a place

Edited by Corpulent Tosser on Wednesday 13th August 07:21

[Pot Bellied Fool]

leggly said:

Liverpool really is the the arse end of the country. No redeeming features whatsoever. Why would you not want to leave?

Oh there's a lot to be proud of in the City, some great facilities, good transport links & a lot more besides. Art? Architecture? Leafy Boulevards? Stonewalled villages nestling quietly in corners of the City? History? Restaurants? Museums? You'd be surprised.

But we like to keep it a secret in case we get an influx of shandy drinking southerners

Don't believe all you see on the TV, sure there's some rough areas but no worse than any of the other places I've lived & worked in up & down the Country.

Sadly there are some of the Harry Enfield stereotypes but they're not actually as common as you'd think & don't always come from Liverpool itself but are found in more outlying areas where they can be beaten like Grouse...

[leggly]

Been there, didn't like it. Pass me another Pimms please mater!

[MitchT]

Bradford is a dump, but the notion that everyone in Bradford should move to London is amusing in the extreme. The reason Bradford is a dump is largely because wages in the area are so poor. If the wages in Bradford as so poor as to turn the place into a dump then what chance do people from Bradford have of moving to a much more expensive place in the South when they can't afford to live properly in a cheap Northern place? Noone, I'd say.

[andy400]

Pot Bellied Fool said:

Stonewalled villages nestling quietly in corners of the City?

....with high crime rates and higher insurance premiums.

Pot Bellied Fool said:

there's some rough areas

....90% of the city.

[TheCarpetCleaner]

My family moved from the Burnley area to Finchampstead, Berkshire about 3 months before I was born.

I still thank my dad for that decision whenever I go and visit

The north is interesting to visit, I can't imagine making a living there.

[Smiler.]

leggly said:

Liverpool really is the the arse end of the country. No redeeming features whatsoever. Why would you not want to leave?

Not true, you can get a ferry to the IOM from there

[leggly]

I would like to say right now that I have tried living in London and. It's a sh*thole. So is Liverpool, if fact any large conurbation is shi*e to live in. That's just my opinion. Living in Gloucester is just as bad for different reasons. There is around a five million (i think) being spent on the redevelopment
of the city but, we all agree you can't polish a turd.

[V8mate]

Pot Bellied Fool said:

leggly said:

Liverpool really is the the arse end of the country. No redeeming features whatsoever. Why would you not want to leave?

Oh there's a lot to be proud of in the City, some great facilities, good transport links & a lot more besides. Art? Architecture? Leafy Boulevards? Stonewalled villages nestling quietly in corners of the City? History? Restaurants? Museums? You'd be surprised.

But we like to keep it a secret in case we get an influx of shandy drinking southerners

It was the shandy drinking southerners who paid for all that regeneration!

You think that a City with a local GDP valued slightly lower than a B&Q shed could afford it? No. Benevolent southern taxpayers sending all their hard-earned up North year after year to create civilised towns for you all

Edited by V8mate on Wednesday 13th August 07:59

[leggly]

V8mate said:

Pot Bellied Fool said:

leggly said:

Liverpool really is the the arse end of the country. No redeeming features whatsoever. Why would you not want to leave?

Oh there's a lot to be proud of in the City, some great facilities, good transport links & a lot more besides. Art? Architecture? Leafy Boulevards? Stonewalled villages nestling quietly in corners of the City? History? Restaurants? Museums? You'd be surprised.

But we like to keep it a secret in case we get an influx of shandy drinking southerners

It was the shandy drinking southerners who paid for all that regeneration!

You think that a City with a local GDP valued slightly lower than a B&Q shed could afford it? No. Benevolent southern taxpayers sending all their hard-earned up North year after year to create civilised towns for you all

Edited by V8mate on Wednesday 13th August 07:59

it's only banter, I quite like shandy

[V8mate]

leggly said:

V8mate said:

Pot Bellied Fool said:

leggly said:

Liverpool really is the the arse end of the country. No redeeming features whatsoever. Why would you not want to leave?

Oh there's a lot to be proud of in the City, some great facilities, good transport links & a lot more besides. Art? Architecture? Leafy Boulevards? Stonewalled villages nestling quietly in corners of the City? History? Restaurants? Museums? You'd be surprised.

But we like to keep it a secret in case we get an influx of shandy drinking southerners

It was the shandy drinking southerners who paid for all that regeneration!

You think that a City with a local GDP valued slightly lower than a B&Q shed could afford it? No. Benevolent southern taxpayers sending all their hard-earned up North year after year to create civilised towns for you all

Edited by V8mate on Wednesday 13th August 07:59

it's only banter, I quite like shandy

I know. Hence his wink and my big smile

[leggly]

V8mate said:

leggly said:

V8mate said:

Pot Bellied Fool said:

leggly said:

Liverpool really is the the arse end of the country. No redeeming features whatsoever. Why would you not want to leave?

Oh there's a lot to be proud of in the City, some great facilities, good transport links & a lot more besides. Art? Architecture? Leafy Boulevards? Stonewalled villages nestling quietly in corners of the City? History? Restaurants? Museums? You'd be surprised.

But we like to keep it a secret in case we get an influx of shandy drinking southerners

It was the shandy drinking southerners who paid for all that regeneration!

You think that a City with a local GDP valued slightly lower than a B&Q shed could afford it? No. Benevolent southern taxpayers sending all their hard-earned up North year after year to create civilised towns for you all

Edited by V8mate on Wednesday 13th August 07:59

it's only banter, I quite like shandy

I know. Hence his wink and my big smile

in my defense, i'm fourty four today, i've just finished a night shift. AND I'm drunk. SORRY.

[ab@]

I don't live in Liverpool, but not far from there.

The City Centre itself is really starting to look good, from memory it has the largest number of Grade I listed buildings of any city outside of London? The new Liverpool One project is fantastic, lots of galleries, museums - loads of new development going on. In a couple of years time, Liverpool will be a great destination.

The surrounding areas, however, are the pits. This is what lets Liverpool down. Scum filled cesspits, where the nicer people are stuck because they simply can't afford to go elsewhere. But lets not be too harsh, I've also been to some absolutely sh**e areas of London, loads of 'wikkid innit mans' walking round with a 'gangsta limp' because 'they bin shot innit' and London has had the most fatal stabbing incidents in the country this year? Great advert.

Ilkley, north of Bradford, has the highest ownership of prestige cars and density of millionaires outside London.

Caldy/Heswall on the Wirral, there's a few roads where you wont get a place less than £3m.

With regards to the North being beyond help, there will always be the areas where people refuse to help themselves no matter what aid they are given.

[BB-Q]

I emigrated from the South to the North 5 years ago.

To sum it up, wild horses wouldn't drag me back down to the scummy South.

[V8mate]

leggly said:

V8mate said:

leggly said:

V8mate said:

Pot Bellied Fool said:

leggly said:

Liverpool really is the the arse end of the country. No redeeming features whatsoever. Why would you not want to leave?

Oh there's a lot to be proud of in the City, some great facilities, good transport links & a lot more besides. Art? Architecture? Leafy Boulevards? Stonewalled villages nestling quietly in corners of the City? History? Restaurants? Museums? You'd be surprised.

But we like to keep it a secret in case we get an influx of shandy drinking southerners

It was the shandy drinking southerners who paid for all that regeneration!

You think that a City with a local GDP valued slightly lower than a B&Q shed could afford it? No. Benevolent southern taxpayers sending all their hard-earned up North year after year to create civilised towns for you all

Edited by V8mate on Wednesday 13th August 07:59

it's only banter, I quite like shandy

I know. Hence his wink and my big smile

in my defense, i'm fourty four today, i've just finished a night shift as a taxi driver. AND I'm drunk. SORRY.

EFA

[leggly]

V8mate said:

leggly said:

V8mate said:

leggly said:

V8mate said:

Pot Bellied Fool said:

leggly said:

Liverpool really is the the arse end of the country. No redeeming features whatsoever. Why would you not want to leave?

Oh there's a lot to be proud of in the City, some great facilities, good transport links & a lot more besides. Art? Architecture? Leafy Boulevards? Stonewalled villages nestling quietly in corners of the City? History? Restaurants? Museums? You'd be surprised.

But we like to keep it a secret in case we get an influx of shandy drinking southerners

It was the shandy drinking southerners who paid for all that regeneration!

You think that a City with a local GDP valued slightly lower than a B&Q shed could afford it? No. Benevolent southern taxpayers sending all their hard-earned up North year after year to create civilised towns for you all

Edited by V8mate on Wednesday 13th August 07:59

it's only banter, I quite like shandy

I know. Hence his wink and my big smile

in my defense, i'm fourty four today, i've just finished a night shift as a taxi driver. AND I'm drunk. SORRY.

EFA

cheers mate, what does efa mean? here we go. I know I'm leaving myself wide open for pi*staking here but what the fork!

[ab@]

edited for accuracy