Is it a diamond?
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T40ORA

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5,177 posts

250 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Apart from trying to scratch glass, how do you easily test if something is pasteor diamond or cubic zircona?

Found a wee bit of something which scratches glass, but I don't think it is actually diamond. So before I bin it I want to make sure that it actually ISN'T diamond....

vallers

1,292 posts

228 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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get divorced and see if it's in the shoebox of possessions you get to take to your bedsit in cippenham

badger_royale

428 posts

282 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Burn it? If it burns, its a diamond.







(sorry)
getmecoat



SpydieNut

5,959 posts

254 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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would it be too sensible to suggest taking it to a jeweller?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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give it a solid whack with a hammer, if it smashes it's paste

diamonds are the hardest thing known to man

Buster Bakdorzin

16,277 posts

296 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Is there a ring attached to the diamond? silly
If yes, the CZ stamped inside the ring indicates cubic zirconia...

T40ORA

Original Poster:

5,177 posts

250 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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SpydieNut said:
would it be too sensible to suggest taking it to a jeweller?
Listen, I might ask advice on PH but I'm I bloke; we don't ask for help/advice/directions to someones face!!

If it is a diamond - result. If not......plonker, taking a bit of glass into a jewllers! The shame.....

T40ORA

Original Poster:

5,177 posts

250 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Buster Bakdorzin said:
Is there a ring attached to the diamond? silly
If yes, the CZ stamped inside the ring indicates cubic zirconia...
No; just spotted it glinting in the sun on my drive a little while ago.

Swilly

9,699 posts

305 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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SpydieNut said:
would it be too sensible to suggest taking it to a jeweller?
Twat !! Get back to thick school
wink

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

256 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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sleep envy said:
give it a solid whack with a hammer, if it smashes it's paste

diamonds are the hardest thing known to man
ahh... but while diamonds are hard... they will shatter when hit like that smile

just ask Mizzy

r1ot

733 posts

239 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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If the stone is not in a ring take a piece of paper and draw a line on it. Place the diamond over the line and look through it with a magnifying glass. If it is a real diamond the line will be broken up something like this /--I\/ etc. If you can still see a straight line it ain't real.

Scratching a piece of glass doesn't mean it's a diamond you can scratch a piece of glass with quartz.

Buster Bakdorzin

16,277 posts

296 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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T40ORA said:
Buster Bakdorzin said:
Is there a ring attached to the diamond? silly
If yes, the CZ stamped inside the ring indicates cubic zirconia...
spotted it glinting in the sun on my drive
Do you have one of these on your drive?


What does it smell like?
Lick it.

Or put it inside an apple.
Apples float because they are made of wood.
If the apple burns, you are a witch.
And because the diamond found YOU, its a familiar.

Ergo, you should be able to cast spells which will turn bovril into gold.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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lord summerisle said:
sleep envy said:
give it a solid whack with a hammer, if it smashes it's paste

diamonds are the hardest thing known to man
ahh... but while diamonds are hard... they will shatter when hit like that smile

just ask Mizzy
look at the smiley to give you an idea...

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

239 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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sleep envy said:
diamonds are the hardest thing known to man
Is Jack Bauer dead then?

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

256 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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sleep envy said:
lord summerisle said:
sleep envy said:
give it a solid whack with a hammer, if it smashes it's paste

diamonds are the hardest thing known to man
ahh... but while diamonds are hard... they will shatter when hit like that smile

just ask Mizzy
look at the smiley to give you an idea...
aye, but i wanted an excuse to put up that video hehe

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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MK4 Slowride said:
sleep envy said:
diamonds are the hardest thing known to man
Is Jack Bauer dead then?
yep, he got killed by Chuck N

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

256 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Diamonds: How to tell CZ from Diamond


Diamond simulants like CZ may be suitable for costume jewelry, and the average person in casual circumstances may not know the difference between a sim and a natural diamond. However, no professional will be fooled and laymen who would like to know the difference between diamond and CZ can try these fun and easy tests:

The Huff Test
Hold the stone in question next to a diamond and "huff" on them with your hot breath. Both stones will fog up. The diamond will clear up rapidly, while a CZ will take a little longer. This is due to diamond's greater thermal conductivity.

The Flash Test
When a CZ is upside down and backlit (light coming through the crown, viewed from the pavilion side) its pavilion facets will often "flash" orange.

The Weight Test
CZ is 80% heavier than diamond. Hint: This will show up pretty fast when she's comparing items with her friends.

The RI Water Test
Put the CZ a glass of water, along with a diamond. A CZ (with a 2.2 refractive index versus diamond's 2.42) will appear more "transparent" than a diamond. It will look more "washed out", or "ghostlike" compared to a diamond.

The Dispersion Water Test
In a dark room, put the stone in question in the bottom of a glass alongside a diamond, face down. Lift the glass up a couple inches, and shine a flashlight down on them vertically from above. Diamond has a dispersion of 0.44, while CZ's is 0.66, 50% more. You will see a circular pattern of light images under the stones which has been "streched out" into a rainbow spectrum. If one of the stones is a CZ, it's rainbow spectrum will be 50% longer, more "stretched out" than a diamond. The difference in look is obvious.

The Give It As An Engagament Ring Test
Give the stone in question to your fiancee as an engagement ring. If she throws it back in your face within 24 hours, it is a CZ... This is the most decisive test of all of them.

so there you go smile

phylet

300 posts

229 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Cubic zircon is 50% heavier than Diamond, not sure if you have any scales quite that accurate.
Diamonds /normally/ give off a blue glow under UV lights.
Diamonds car scratch sandpaper; most impersonators cant.
Diamonds wont hold heat, hold a soldering iron against it for 20 seconds, wait 5 seconds, is it still hot? if its cold, its a Diamond.

Diamonds have small imperfections or inclusions. But from what you've said the sample you have sounds too small to be able to tell.
Is it cut in any shape or is it a chip? Photo please!

Triumph Coupe

386 posts

220 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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lord summerisle said:
sleep envy said:
give it a solid whack with a hammer, if it smashes it's paste

diamonds are the hardest thing known to man
ahh... but while diamonds are hard... they will shatter when hit like that smile

just ask Mizzy
"Let's review, diamond engagement rings are for putting on your finger, not in a blender!"

FFS

space1999

436 posts

220 months

Friday 15th August 2008
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Ok this might sound really stupid - but - I have noticed when I keep my rings on when I work - garden stuff cooking - making pastry etc the cz's go very dull a diamond will always shine and produce nice colours in the light (like a rainbow!)