Tax the Rich - politics of envy isn't done yet!
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...
I'm trying to think of some witty remark, but I'm speechless.
I'm trying to think of some witty remark, but I'm speechless.
Dunk76 said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...
I'm trying to think of some witty remark, but I'm speechless.
just skimmed it, but isn't he trying to be ironic?I'm trying to think of some witty remark, but I'm speechless.
TheCarpetCleaner said:
It seems if you are wealthy, or a single white hardworking person, you get screwed in this country.
Benefits or children. Thats the way to go.
You are not wrong, i have been close to poor and not able to get any assistance for so long i am about ready to make the change and become feckless..Benefits or children. Thats the way to go.
I feel like selling the house and going on a massive trip round the world for a few years and coming back with no job, no house and no prospects, maybe i will forget how to read and write while i am away, or adopt a new religion.
El stovey said:
Isn't this article just saying that the hard working middle classes are the worst off at the moment in the U.K. so lay off them and tax the very rich more?
That is how I read it, but I still dont agree. We need more affluent business people with a real desire to invest capital in businesses and to retain that capital in a way that will benefit all in the UK
. We need to create a more competative environment to attract and encourage more entrepreneurs, investors etc. (IMO anyway). This always means that the middle classes will always be footing the tax bill unfortunatly, but what are you going to do...strangle the chicken that lays golden eggs?
Edited by speedy_thrills on Sunday 17th August 08:53
Hedders said:
I feel like selling the house and going on a massive trip round the world for a few years and coming back with no job, no house and no prospects, maybe i will forget how to read and write while i am away, or adopt a new religion.
I believe you score extra points for being a lesbian, disabled and muslim as well - so if you can pull that off while you are away - you will be a squillionaire when you return It fails to grasp the real concept though - that the decent/mega/nicely rich can a) afford accountants, and therefore tax loopholes, and b) can, and indeed do, move to a tax-friendly country as the mood takes them.
Taxing the rich isn't the solution
Stop throwing it at the underclass is the solution.
Taxing the rich isn't the solution
Stop throwing it at the underclass is the solution.
Just means more will become 'resident' in Monaco ie live in london but employ someone in Monaco to make a few phone ccalls now and again so can use the phone bill as proof.
Politically its bound to happen- labour are getting desperate, the rich are in the minority, the lower classes dont turn up to vote and the middle classes do so need to get them on side.
Politically its bound to happen- labour are getting desperate, the rich are in the minority, the lower classes dont turn up to vote and the middle classes do so need to get them on side.
Dunk76 said:
It fails to grasp the real concept though - that the decent/mega/nicely rich can a) afford accountants, and therefore tax loopholes, and b) can, and indeed do, move to a tax-friendly country as the mood takes them.
Governments need to realise that countries are in competition for finite resources. If you had taken the risks involved in building a business or investing in one, would you conduct your business in a country with a high or low corperate tax rate?RobDickinson said:
If you tax the rich more they just bugger off.
Stop funding the underclass and thye'll have to go earn their own crust, UK social state is being sponged off.
The middle class are buggering off in their droves too, and half of them are coming back potless after the spanish house deal went bad etc.Stop funding the underclass and thye'll have to go earn their own crust, UK social state is being sponged off.
Government needs to be halved in size, and then some. The same goes for the civil service and the councils.
Those who survive the cull will be monitored for performance, just like in the private sector.
We could save Billions and billions every year, and not notice any negative effects on our daily lives!
Dunk76 said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...
I'm trying to think of some witty remark, but I'm speechless.
Haven't read the full article but are we not all "middle class" here, or at least the vast majority of us? Hands up those who own multinational companies (drops hands below chair level a la Rick)I'm trying to think of some witty remark, but I'm speechless.
Hedders said:
RobDickinson said:
If you tax the rich more they just bugger off.
Stop funding the underclass and thye'll have to go earn their own crust, UK social state is being sponged off.
The middle class are buggering off in their droves too, and half of them are coming back potless after the spanish house deal went bad etc.Stop funding the underclass and thye'll have to go earn their own crust, UK social state is being sponged off.
Government needs to be halved in size, and then some. The same goes for the civil service and the councils.
Those who survive the cull will be monitored for performance, just like in the private sector.
We could save Billions and billions every year, and not notice any negative effects on our daily lives!
Driller said:
Dunk76 said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...
I'm trying to think of some witty remark, but I'm speechless.
Haven't read the full article but are we not all "middle class" here, or at least the vast majority of us? Hands up those who own multinational companies (drops hands below chair level a la Rick)I'm trying to think of some witty remark, but I'm speechless.
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