A random question about speed...
A random question about speed...
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Heskey

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4,048 posts

224 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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If you're in a vehicle that's moving, whether it be car, train, bike, plane.... Are you moving at Xmph? Or are you simply in something doing Xmph?

If you jump off a train you don't fly forward in the train's direction; most likely you fly a few metres, hit the ground and roll a few times. Persumably you're ejected at around half the MPH of the vehicle?

Completely random question for you all to ponder over and call me an idiot for wink

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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If you jump off you're "ejected" at the speed of the vehicle you were in. Air resistance slows you down and gravity pulls you down.

eightseventhree

2,266 posts

235 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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you only go a few meters as there is this force called gravity

GKP

15,099 posts

272 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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If you jump off the moving train you will be travelling at the same speed as the train. However, air resistance coupled with the lack of any forward energy pushing you along (in other words, an engine) will mean your speed will decrease quite quickly.
Oh, and the ticket inspector will still want you to pay full fare.

carter711

1,849 posts

229 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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eightseventhree said:
you only go a few meters as there is this force called gravity
Can this force arrest you?

Bushmaster

27,590 posts

310 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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It depends on whether you are sitting down or standing up. If you are sitting down in a seat fixed to the train you are going at the same speed as the train. If you are standing up you are going at different speeds.

HTH

Digger.

17,014 posts

222 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Is it true, that in a vacuum, a feather and something with more mass/weight will drop at exactly the same speed?

Heskey

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4,048 posts

224 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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The ejection was just an example, it's the "person speed" vs. "vehicle speed" I'm interested in.

I think I first started to wonder about this YEEEEARS ago as a kid, when I'd jump whilst on a bus and not go flying backwards; I stayed in the same place albiet in the air.

schmalex

13,616 posts

237 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Bushmaster said:
It depends on whether you are sitting down or standing up. If you are sitting down in a seat fixed to the train you are going at the same speed as the train. If you are standing up you are going at different speeds.

HTH
confused

Huh? So, if I were to stand on a train for long enough, I would crash into the very rearmost bulkhead?

tashie

547 posts

224 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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How weird's this?...
If a bird is flying in a train, does it have to fly with the train so that it doesn't hit the back.

It would woudln't it?

jeff m

4,066 posts

289 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Don't forget to tell one of your buddies we'll need a link to the video when you try this.

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Digger. said:
Is it true, that in a vacuum, a feather and something with more mass/weight will drop at exactly the same speed?
Yes. It has nothing to with the mass.

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

239 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Dog in vehicle going at 'Z' mph doe on ground chasing vehicle going at 'Y' mph.

Dog jumps out of moving vehicle travelling at 'Z' collides with dog travelling at 'Y' becomes 'X'.

HTH



scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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rofl at that gif

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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tashie said:
How weird's this?...
If a bird is flying in a train, does it have to fly with the train so that it doesn't hit the back.

It would woudln't it?
No. The air in the train is moving at the same speed as the train (assuming it's not a convertible hehe). Think about it, if you're sitting in a train, is the air in the train rushing past you or moving with you.

dan1981

18,124 posts

230 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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so is the fly that is flying around in my car at the moment doing 70mph when i am on the motorway?

Engineer1

10,486 posts

240 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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It's quite simple you are travelling at the same speed as the vehicle, if there was a speed difference between you and the vehicle then you would move inside the vehicle

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Heskey said:
The ejection was just an example, it's the "person speed" vs. "vehicle speed" I'm interested in.

I think I first started to wonder about this YEEEEARS ago as a kid, when I'd jump whilst on a bus and not go flying backwards; I stayed in the same place albiet in the air.
Which surely told you that you were travelling at the same speed as the bus? confused

Heskey

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4,048 posts

224 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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ewenm said:
tashie said:
How weird's this?...
If a bird is flying in a train, does it have to fly with the train so that it doesn't hit the back.

It would woudln't it?
No. The air in the train is moving at the same speed as the train (assuming it's not a convertible hehe). Think about it, if you're sitting in a train, is the air in the train rushing past you or moving with you.
Moving with, but I would assume a bird in a moving train could fly around as it would in the open air?

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Heskey said:
ewenm said:
tashie said:
How weird's this?...
If a bird is flying in a train, does it have to fly with the train so that it doesn't hit the back.

It would woudln't it?
No. The air in the train is moving at the same speed as the train (assuming it's not a convertible hehe). Think about it, if you're sitting in a train, is the air in the train rushing past you or moving with you.
Moving with, but I would assume a bird in a moving train could fly around as it would in the open air?
Of course, the bird is stationary relative to the air in the train so can fly around as normal. What's difficult about this? If it flew out of the window it would struggle as it would suddenly be trying to go at 70mph+ through the air.