Garage wall - will everything fall down ? Structural Q.

[league67]

Have an option to 'acquire' garage next to mine. Would love to knock the dividing wall down and get, well bigger garage. I'm thinking of getting two acrow props (think thats the right name for them things) put I beam (universal beam ?) on top of them and 'bolt it' to wood beam that sits on top of existing wall.

I beam would also 'sit' on top of bricks (front and back wall of the garage). As money is earmarked for impeding project (more about it later) would like to avoid getting professionals to do the work. Is this sensible at all? Any suggestions are welcome.

this is how it looks now

Edited by league67 on Sunday 24th August 02:30

Edited by league67 on Sunday 24th August 02:31

[Ganglandboss]

From what I can see there, the central wall isn't load-bearing. You would be okay provided you left the column between the front of the two garages in place.

I would recommend you get someone to physically inspect it before putting a sledge hammer to it though.

[Muze ST]

Ganglandboss said:

From what I can see there, the central wall isn't load-bearing. You would be okay provided you left the column between the front of the two garages in place.

I would recommend you get someone to physically inspect it before putting a sledge hammer to it though.

Yep i agree, the wall doesn't look like its a load bearing wall, but i would have it checked out, wouldn't be nice to wake up the following morning with you garage ontop of your car.

[Glocko]

Just don't chain a motorhome to it!!

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Edited by Glocko on Sunday 24th August 04:00

[Wacky Racer]

Glocko said:

Just don't chain a motorhome to it!!

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Yes, but it is a very strong Garage.......

[anonymous-user]

Stop being such a wendy. Get out there with a big sledgehammer and knock the fecker down. Then you'll find out if it was load bearing.

[Autonotiv]

whats the roof?

[league67]

Thanks for all replies guys really appreciated.
Another picture of garage, forgot to include one wooden beam that goes across as per picture .

Roof is made of wood planks covered with felt (?) cover.



Edit imageshack is messing with pictures

Edited by league67 on Sunday 24th August 08:08

[Busamav]

Leave a return at the front and back , ESPECIALLY next to the front pier .

That dividing wall is very likely to be acting as a buttress for the pier and also the rear wall , hopefully the front pier is 215 thk.

[league67]

Busamav said:

Leave a return at the front and back , ESPECIALLY next to the front pier .

That dividing wall is very likely to be acting as a buttress for the pier and also the rear wall , hopefully the front pier is 215 thk.

No idea what that all means. But front and back walls are brick and separating wall is those aeroblocks. I'm planing on putting the green things and steel I beam bolted onto the wooden beam above the wall that will be demolished.

[hornetrider]

league67 said:

Busamav said:

Leave a return at the front and back , ESPECIALLY next to the front pier .

That dividing wall is very likely to be acting as a buttress for the pier and also the rear wall , hopefully the front pier is 215 thk.

No idea what that all means. But front and back walls are brick and separating wall is those aeroblocks. I'm planing on putting the green things and steel I beam bolted onto the wooden beam above the wall that will be demolished.

I think it means that the central airblock wall is providing lateral support for the rear wall and front column. If you remove that, maybe the rear wall could fall backwards or forwards? I'm no bricky though

[falcemob]

I wouldn't bother with an extra beam provided the wooden beam that sits on the breeze blocks is properly supported into the brickwork at either end. As some one else said leave a return on the front pillar to strengthen it.

[SLacKer]

El stovey said:

Stop being such a wendy. Get out there with a big sledgehammer and knock the fecker down. Then you'll find out if it was load bearing.

[falcemob]

league67 said:

Thanks for all replies guys really appreciated.
Another picture of garage, forgot to include one wooden beam that goes across as per picture .

Roof is made of wood planks covered with felt (?) cover.



Edit imageshack is messing with pictures

Edited by league67 on Sunday 24th August 08:08

Where has the extra cross beam in the middle come from in the second picture, it wasn't there in the original post.

[trooperiziz]

falcemob said:

league67 said:

Thanks for all replies guys really appreciated.
Another picture of garage, forgot to include one wooden beam that goes across as per picture .

Roof is made of wood planks covered with felt (?) cover.



Edit imageshack is messing with pictures

Edited by league67 on Sunday 24th August 08:08

Where has the extra cross beam in the middle come from in the second picture, it wasn't there in the original post.

I'm guessing its "one wooden beam that goes across "

[Fort Jefferson]

Ganglandboss said:

From what I can see there, the central wall isn't load-bearing. You would be okay provided you left the column between the front of the two garages in place.

I would recommend you get someone to physically inspect it before putting a sledge hammer to it though.

What he said.

[league67]

Yes, after reviewing first picture figured that I forgot to draw that beam across.

Thanks for all replies chaps.

Is 'return' = leave couple of blocks either side ?

Like this

[falcemob]

You'll need an extra beam going front to back underneath the beam that goes across the garage. That beam would sit on top of the returns.
As you have absolutely no idea what you are doing structurally wise, I would get someone who knows to look and advise you.

[league67]

Picture cleaned up a bit.

Would this work ?

How much is actually to get someone to say yay or nay ? Ball park.

Thanks

[league67]

Tim,

I agree with that, if I knew or even had an inclination I'd be down there with hammer. Should I just look for structural engs in yellow pages ?