Affect or Effect?
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Brown and Boris

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11,838 posts

266 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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I can tell which version should be used within a sentence ( I think) , but can't explain how I make the choice.


I recall someone saying that 'Affect' was used in describing impact on people (emotional-affective) and 'Effect' being used for systems or objects. Is that the rule?




TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

233 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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That's how I understand it.

Kinky

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300 months

groucho

12,134 posts

277 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Inquiry/Enquiry - same thing.

esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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groucho said:
Inquiry/Enquiry - same thing.
Are you saying that effect and affect are one and the same?

groucho

12,134 posts

277 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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esselte said:
groucho said:
Inquiry/Enquiry - same thing.
Are you saying that effect and affect are one and the same?
hehe I don't know what I'm on about to tell the truth.

Leccy

481 posts

222 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Brown and Boris said:
I can tell which version should be used within a sentence ( I think) , but can't explain how I make the choice.


I recall someone saying that 'Affect' was used in describing impact on people (emotional-affective) and 'Effect' being used for systems or objects. Is that the rule?
You can affect something or have an effect on something. You can't effect something and you don't have an affect on something.

bobt

1,323 posts

234 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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This thread is for the commissioners of the spelling and grammar police.

A person/object/situation etc. can be "affected" by the actions of a person, object or force.

A person/object/force etc. can "effect" or "have an effect" on a person, object or situation.

e.g. The cornering ability of my car is affected by the type of tyres fitted, and the type or tyres fitted effect the cornering ability of my car.

or to put it another way "affect" is demonstrative, "effect" is subjective.

next..........

I am not arrogant, I'm just right most of the time.


eldar

25,323 posts

227 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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bobt said:
This thread is for the commissioners of the spelling and grammar police.

A person/object/situation etc. can be "affected" by the actions of a person, object or force.

A person/object/force etc. can "effect" or "have an effect" on a person, object or situation.

e.g. The cornering ability of my car is affected by the type of tyres fitted, and the type or tyres fitted effect the cornering ability of my car.

or to put it another way "affect" is demonstrative, "effect" is subjective.

next..........

I am not arrogant, I'm just right most of the time.
Only most of the time? Tsk tsksmile

vdubbin

2,176 posts

228 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html
vdubbin said:
There are five distinct words here. When “affect” is accented on the final syllable (a-FECT), it is usually a verb meaning “have an influence on”: “The million-dollar donation from the industrialist did not affect my vote against the Clean Air Act.”

Occasionally a pretentious person is said to affect an artificial air of sophistication. Speaking with a borrowed French accent or ostentatiously wearing a large diamond ear stud might be an affectation. In this sort of context, “affect” means “to make a display of or deliberately cultivate.”

Another unusual meaning is indicated when the word is accented on the first syllable (AFF-ect), meaning “emotion.” In this case the word is used mostly by psychiatrists and social scientists— people who normally know how to spell it.

The real problem arises when people confuse the first spelling with the second: “effect.” This too can be two different words. The more common one is a noun: “When I left the stove on, the effect was that the house filled with smoke.” When you affect a situation, you have an effect on it.

The less common is a verb meaning “to create”: “I’m trying to effect a change in the way we purchase widgets.” No wonder people are confused. Note especially that the proper expression is not “take affect” but “take effect”—become effective. Hey, nobody ever said English was logical: just memorize it and get on with your life.

The stuff in your purse? Your personal effects.


Edited by vdubbin on Monday 25th August 13:05

PJ S

10,842 posts

258 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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bobt said:
This thread is for the commissioners of the spelling and grammar police.

A person/object/situation etc. can be "affected" by the actions of a person, object or force.

A person/object/force etc. can "effect" or "have an effect" on a person, object or situation.

e.g. The cornering ability of my car is affected by the type of tyres fitted, and the type or tyres fitted effect the cornering ability of my car.

or to put it another way "affect" is demonstrative, "effect" is subjective.

next..........

I am not arrogant, I'm just right most of the time.
Poor choice of subject matter used to illustrate the difference between the two words, due in no small part to the tyres affecting the cornering ability of your car!
Perhaps the tyres have an effect on the cornering ability of your car?


Affect - verb, transitive - have an effect on; make a difference to
Effect - noun - a change that is a result or consequence of an action or other cause