8 Year Old Girl to get Divorced
8 Year Old Girl to get Divorced
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stuart-b

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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website said:
A child, who is just preparing for a new term at primary school in Saudi Arabia, is the focus of a court hearing to decide whether she can get DIVORCED.

The 8-year-old girl from Unayzah was married off in secret (she does not know she is married) to a much older man by her father. Surprisingly it was the girl's own mother who filed for divorce, however her daughter's husband insists that he has done nothing wrong, and under Sharia law, he probably hasn't.

Saudi Arabia has one of the highest child-marriage rates on the Arabian peninsula, however they are also routine in many parts of Africa and South-East Asia.
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The Prophet Muhammad is reported in the scriptures to have been a paedophile, so there is really nothing but a religious issue here.

I have done some very quick reading on the subject, and it seems that once a girl has gone through her first menstrual cycle, then her husband is allowed to have sex with her. Most empathetic humans would see this as permitting rape.
eek Very worrying indeed! First of all, how can they be married without realising? I don't understand that part. Secondly, check my quote from a comment on the website, even more worrying!


jamoor

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246 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Source - Anti Jihad monthly.

Geronimo

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223 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Some bits of Sharia law are great - like beheading murderers/rapists etc but they ruin the good aspects by dressing up their kiddy fiddling as a directive from Allah Akhbar

Horse_Apple

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273 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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jamoor said:
Source - Anti Jihad monthly.
Sold as The Crusader in the US? wink

On a separate note, historically, nearly all the offspring of European nobility were sold off in the same manner for land.

The upside being that over time land offers a superior return to goats and cammels. biggrin



Edited by Horse_Apple on Tuesday 26th August 12:26

Jasandjules

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260 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Will the truth come out in the press? I doubt it.

zcacogp

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275 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Geronimo said:
Some bits of Sharia law are great - like beheading murderers/rapists etc but they ruin the good aspects by dressing up their kiddy fiddling as a directive from Allah Akhbar
... as sanctioned (by example) by their prophet, of course ...


Oli.

Neil_H

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282 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Geronimo said:
Some bits of Sharia law are great - like beheading murderers/rapists etc but they ruin the good aspects by dressing up their kiddy fiddling as a directive from Allah Akhbar


confused I guess they brushed over this in Return of the Jedi?

Justayellowbadge

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Any reason why you haven't identified the website?

Edited by Justayellowbadge on Tuesday 26th August 12:27

mechsympathy

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Horse_Apple said:
On a separate note, historically, nearly all the offspring of European nobility were sold off in the same manner for land.
Precisely. At the time Mohammed had a 14 year old wife it was perfectly normal.

stuart-b

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Sorry, I didn't realise I missed the URL to the website, I found it while having a 5 minute break on Google News and was a bit shocked! I guess I'm a bit ignorant of other cultures.

The website source was the Telegraph.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleea...

But I viewed it at: http://current.com/items/89233043_8_year_old_girl_... Where I was linked from Google News.

Edited by stuart-b on Tuesday 26th August 12:33

stuart-b

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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mechsympathy said:
Horse_Apple said:
On a separate note, historically, nearly all the offspring of European nobility were sold off in the same manner for land.
Precisely. At the time Mohammed had a 14 year old wife it was perfectly normal.
Yes, but that is thousands of years ago - and we're in a modern world now.

Heskey

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224 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Justayellowbadge said:
Any reason why you haven't identified the website?

Edited by Justayellowbadge on Tuesday 26th August 12:27
Because it was posted on a not-safe-for-his-ego website, and he's now vigorously googling to find the article reported in the same manner elsewhere!

mechsympathy

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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stuart-b said:
Yes, but that is thousands of years ago - and we're in a modern world now.
There's no arguing with that. And no arguing that marrying off an 8 year old is wrong, but writing off muslims as a bunch of kiddy fiddlers because Mohammed did something entirely normal for the time is just a tad ignorant.

Silver993tt

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270 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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stuart-b said:
mechsympathy said:
Horse_Apple said:
On a separate note, historically, nearly all the offspring of European nobility were sold off in the same manner for land.
Precisely. At the time Mohammed had a 14 year old wife it was perfectly normal.
Yes, but that is thousands of years ago - and we're in a modern world now.
It's part of the culture in Saudi Arabia, so what's the problem? They're not expecting the UK to follow suit. After all, I'm sure the Saudis think it's unacceptable to allow 15-20 year old females to get blind drunk, fighting and puking in city centres every fri/sat evening as they do each weekend in the UK smile



Edited by Silver993tt on Tuesday 26th August 12:39

chris_w666

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Whether right or wrong in the countries law, there is something very wrong with the grown men who believe that marrying and sleeping with children is acceptable because of something written in scriptures.





744ti

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Doesn't matter! The prophet/god says you are allowed to marry/fk children, so that is the end of that. No one can argue with a god... hahaha.

Silver993tt

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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chris_w666 said:
Whether right or wrong in the countries law, there is something very wrong with the grown men who believe that marrying and sleeping with children is acceptable because of something written in scriptures.


that's correct IN THE CULTURE you have been brought up in.

Fantic SuperT

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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mechsympathy said:
Horse_Apple said:
On a separate note, historically, nearly all the offspring of European nobility were sold off in the same manner for land.
Precisely. At the time Mohammed had a 14 year old wife it was perfectly normal.
By the time she was 14 he was dead. "Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad (aged 53). She stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, when the marriage was consummated. The sources do not offer much more information about Aisha's childhood years, but mention that after the wedding, she continued to play with her toys, and Muhammad entered into the spirit of these games."

Heskey

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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chris_w666 said:
Whether right or wrong in the countries law, there is something very wrong with the grown men who believe that marrying and sleeping with children is acceptable because of something written in scriptures.


Not condoning it myself, but you can't throw up arguments like this because of the time we're in, or the culture we have.

As someone's already mentioned, what they do seems wrong to us, what we do seems wrong to them.

In the past people used to marry and sleep with children; the only difference is it's illegal now and we've grown up with that.

Really, not much has changed.

mechsympathy

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Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Fantic SuperT said:
By the time she was 14 he was dead. "Aisha was six or seven years old when betrothed to Muhammad (aged 53). She stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, when the marriage was consummated. The sources do not offer much more information about Aisha's childhood years, but mention that after the wedding, she continued to play with her toys, and Muhammad entered into the spirit of these games."
I read she was 14 at marriage. Either way, it's still normal by the standards of the time.