Selling a house - HPI??
Selling a house - HPI??
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NickFRP

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5,156 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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What is this HPI crappery?
What does it involve?

what a load of st!

Eric Mc

125,825 posts

296 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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It's actually HIP - and it's compulsory.

Bat21

658 posts

279 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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It is designed to allow HMG to comply with an EEC directive regarding records of property energy efficiency, at your expense, by implementing worthless and costly legislation to complicate and extend the process of selling your home. The spin of is that Gorgon also reaps a reward in extra VAT.

For those of you that don't know, imminently landlords will have to obtain a home energy report before offering a property to tenants.

For those of you who don't sell your home or let it out, there will be another piece of legislation along soon compelling you to obtain an HER.

Utter waste of time and money!

BoRED S2upid

21,095 posts

271 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Just another reason the housing market is on its knees. Idiot Government. EEC Directive! are you trying to tell me other EU Countries have such rubbish?.

M400 NBL

3,552 posts

243 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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I think HIPS only apply if you are selling with an estate agent.

If you can put up your own board outside your home and find a buyer, it should save you a lot of money.

IMO, HIPS are often useless. New build homes with plasterboard walls are apparently better than 1900's victorian houses with 2 foot thick brick walls. I'm no builder but i'd hazard a guess that not all new builds will be standing in 100 years time.

scotal

8,751 posts

310 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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M400 NBL said:
I think HIPS only apply if you are selling with an estate agent.

If you can put up your own board outside your home and find a buyer, it should save you a lot of money.

IMO, HIPS are often useless. New build homes with plasterboard walls are apparently better than 1900's victorian houses with 2 foot thick brick walls. I'm no builder but i'd hazard a guess that not all new builds will be standing in 100 years time.
No HIPS are compulsory if the house is marketed, putting up your own board counts as marketing.
HIPS are a bit of a joke when it comes to the Energy performance stuff. Hips as impleemnted are a much watered down version of the originally flawed product that was proposed, so they are a bit of a waste of time. More to the point very few buyers either ask for them, or read them, that being said, they are compulsory.


n1ckm

187 posts

259 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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M400 NBL said:
I think HIPS only apply if you are selling with an estate agent.
HIPS are mandatory whether you sell through an agent or not.

This tells you everything you need to know : http://www.homeinformationpacks.gov.uk/




Hedders

24,460 posts

278 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Is it still true that you can forego the hassle of sorting out a HIPS and pay a £300 fine for not doing it instead?


n1ckm

187 posts

259 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Hedders said:
Is it still true that you can forego the hassle of sorting out a HIPS and pay a £300 fine for not doing it instead?
Not really. The fine is £200 per instance of marketing not per HIP. Therefore, you could be charged multiples of £200 for every day that Trading Standards catch you marketing without a HIP.

Also, a solicitor could refuse to handle the transaction if you do not have a HIP as they have to operate in accordance with the law.

richardxjr

7,561 posts

241 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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My EA will only commence marketing the house once I have instructed, and paid the fee to, the HIP provider.

scotal

8,751 posts

310 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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richardxjr said:
My EA will only commence marketing the house once I have instructed, and paid the fee to, the HIP provider.
That'll be because agents will get fined if they are seen to be marketing a property without a HIP being at least instructed.

steve_amv8

1,918 posts

241 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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scotal said:
M400 NBL said:
I think HIPS only apply if you are selling with an estate agent.

If you can put up your own board outside your home and find a buyer, it should save you a lot of money.

IMO, HIPS are often useless. New build homes with plasterboard walls are apparently better than 1900's victorian houses with 2 foot thick brick walls. I'm no builder but i'd hazard a guess that not all new builds will be standing in 100 years time.
No HIPS are compulsory if the house is marketed, putting up your own board counts as marketing.
HIPS are a bit of a joke when it comes to the Energy performance stuff. Hips as impleemnted are a much watered down version of the originally flawed product that was proposed, so they are a bit of a waste of time. More to the point very few buyers either ask for them, or read them, that being said, they are compulsory.
Agree. When I sold my house, the HIP was just a necessary waste of time and money.

Example - they check all of the light bulbs to see how energy efficient they are but this only applies to INTERNAL lighting! You could have fifty 500W halogens illuminating your garden and they don't get accounted for!

Also, most HIP surveyors only do a minimal check on the loft which doesn't involve getting in there so just lay a huge thick layer of insulation around the hatch and you'll get a good rating for that too!

Goochie

5,802 posts

250 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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steve_amv8 said:
Also, most HIP surveyors only do a minimal check on the loft which doesn't involve getting in there so just lay a huge thick layer of insulation around the hatch and you'll get a good rating for that too!
+1

Also, change ALL your bulbs for energy saving ones before the HIP inspector comes round. What you do with them after he's gone is up to you wink

NickFRP

Original Poster:

5,156 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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fking st about 400£
wrs


NickFRP

Original Poster:

5,156 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Goochie said:
steve_amv8 said:
Also, most HIP surveyors only do a minimal check on the loft which doesn't involve getting in there so just lay a huge thick layer of insulation around the hatch and you'll get a good rating for that too!
+1

Also, change ALL your bulbs for energy saving ones before the HIP inspector comes round. What you do with them after he's gone is up to you wink
I ahve all spot lights!
any ideas?

PeetBee

1,036 posts

286 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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NickFRP said:
I ahve all spot lights!
any ideas?
You can get LED/low energy blubs that I would guess would give you a good HIPS rating, but are as effective as a child's night light in comparison to normal spotlight bulbs.
Don't know how cheap they are though.

Goochie

5,802 posts

250 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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PeetBee said:
NickFRP said:
I ahve all spot lights!
any ideas?
You can get LED/low energy blubs that I would guess would give you a good HIPS rating, but are as effective as a child's night light in comparison to normal spotlight bulbs.
Don't know how cheap they are though.
Are they low voltage or mains voltage bulbs in your existing fittings?

Hedders

24,460 posts

278 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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I am not sure any of this matters does it?

As a buyer, i wouldn't be looking at any HIPS reports to see what kind of light bulbs the PO had..


GuildfordPaul

467 posts

237 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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So if the house is sold, but not 'marketed' then a HIPS is not required?

If for example you sold to a friend or family member then there is no need to bother?

J111

3,354 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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GuildfordPaul said:
So if the house is sold, but not 'marketed' then a HIPS is not required?

If for example you sold to a friend or family member then there is no need to bother?
Only if you do your own conveyancing, too.